Are You Living the If?

With only 3 more weeks before the end of the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord and the return of Jesus Christ, False Prophet Ronald Weinland continues to lounge in Club Fed.  Perhaps he is using his sabbath to compose a post for his blog which is more rational than the one earlier this week.

Therefore, it was up to one of his flunkies to deliver the sermon.  This week it was Terry Wrozek.  For some reason, Terry’s sermon was not delivered “live” but was pre-recorded.  Maybe PKG has only one laptop with software installed to connect to the streaming audio server.  Seems to me that it wouldn’t be that difficult to set up another so Terry could take it on the road, maybe to Denver.  It’s been a couple of weeks since a trip for one of Ron’s flunkies was posted on Ron’s blog.

Terry’s sermon was directed at retaining members.  He asked rhetorically whom they were listening to.  PKG members need multiple layers of filters to protect their minds from rational thinking.

At one point Terry said “Blog, blog, blog” in a mocking tone.  Perhaps this blog and its commenters are having a greater effect than I thought.  I have received several reports including in comments that the following individuals have left PKG:

  • Senior Elder Ralph Dowd.  Ralph has been a PKG member since the 90’s, and often traveled on his own nickel to hear Ron speak at distant locations including Hawaii.  Ralph was called by the government as a witness at Ron’s trial, and attended the sentencing hearing.
  • April Combs.  April I believe was an elder and at times ran mail lists for PKG member.  April also testified as a government witness and attended the sentencing hearing.
  • Hope Henson, another Cincinnati area member and related to April.
  • Shawn Christal from the St Louis area (reported to have stepped down as an elder so may still be a PKG member)
  • Senior Elder Scott Cameron, Ron’s brother in law.  (reported to have stepped down as an elder so may still be a PKG member)

Whether or not this blog had anything to do with this, I hope it is true and that more will soon join them.  Three more weeks to the very minute of this posting until the next time Christ doesn’t return.

 

97 thoughts on “Are You Living the If?

  1. She will have to Randy! May they end up bankrupt, and end their days destitute and alone. They deserve this and more for the lives they have willingly destroyed.

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  2. Here is the checklist PKGer’s.
    Less than 3 weeks left for the Second Coming (according to Ronald Weinland)
    Which of these prophecies has Ronald Weinland fulfilled?
    Are you going to accept the garbage interpretation where God is confused? Didn’t mean what He said? It means something else?
    Can you SEE? Can you recognize when prophecy is fulfilled?
    Ronald Weinland has been walking around naked with his junk hanging out, and flapping in the wind.
    Are you going to let Ronald Weinland tell you he wearing a king’s robe?

    Here is the checklist, check off any that Ronald Weinland has fulfilled
    They are two men
    They breath fire
    The turn rivers to blood
    They kill their enemies
    They call down droughts
    They call down many plagues AS OFTEN AS THEY WANT.

    Ask yourself if Ronald Weinland has fulfilled any of these prophecies?

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  3. Wonder how Wayne and Chris are doing in the land down under?

    Are they in the process of moving to the states so Wayne can take over pkg in Ron’s absence?

    Or did they sell their home because Wayne was been taken off the pkg payroll?

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  4. Ah, but Martin:

    The Two Witnesses don’t have to show up because Ron started and ended his (fake) Witnessing LOONNNGGG before the 6th Trumpet, since he apparently has the power to deny Christ and alter EVERYTHING jesus Christ said/commanded/taught/explained. Plus he didn’t say the Two Witnesses were to show up at this time. Sic eWeinland has denied Chrost on this issue it is over and done. Now all we have to do is watch Weinland continue denying Christ by continuing his ministry after he explained to us that GOD told him what he told us and that “nothing or noone can stop it.” May 19th will be the THIRD TIME “nothing or no one can stop” Jesus Christ from returning…even though Jesus isn’t returning. Weinland;s ministry WAS all about prophecy, then it was about progressive truth, NOW it is about the PKG repenting of “their” sins, and obeying God no matter how many times Ron is wrong. Post-May 19th it will be about just following “God” (Ron) wherever “he” (Ron) leads, and just shutting up and paying tithes and DON’T question Ron because he is ALWAYS “right” now matter what happens.

    So unfortunately Martin, you are trying to use sound Biblical understanding and God’s Word to reason with Ron – it won’t work!

    Review:

    1. The Asian Hordes MUST rise int he next two weeks….AS RON PROPHESIED (twice falsely now).
    2. The Beat Power MUST rise…as Ron has falsely prophesied in previous years.
    3. 1/3rd of everything (oceans, humanity, trees, etc) MUST be PHYSICALLY destroyed as Weinland has falsely prophesied to have happened YEARS AGO.
    4. We here at this “blog, blog, blog” must DIE a QUICK DEATH from the INSIDE…4 YEARS AGO AS WEINLAND’S FIRST OFFICIAL ACT OF HIS WITNESSES POWERS.

    WEINLAND IS A FALSE PROPHET, LIAR,CRIMINAL, AND SCUMBAG.

    The PKG are now suddenly waking up and reclaiming truth as their own, fearlessly – since there is NOTHING to be afraid of from Ronald Weinland the Liar. God is not on his side, and the increase in leaving, WISE members is proof.

    I called them morons and scumbags…with every member left they prove me WRONG! If God exists, then now is he saving the PKG and helping them escape…

    and Satan (Ron) is increasingly upset about being defeated by righteousness and goodness…you know, THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT…

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  5. It is true. I talked to one of the elders and was told that they were disfellowshipped but not to say anything to the congregations. It is funny that they have all these elders and some of them are not in agreement but staying for the info. So we knew before the people did. And they don’t have any ideal who they are.

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  6. I hope the disfellowshipped use their phones and use email to talk sense into some of their friends “left behind” in PKG.

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  7. Wow ! If all the pkg’ers leave, maybe it wont be long before he’s preach’in all that crap in sackcloth after all ? And, no more expensive suits ?
    And he wont be able to start up again, as his very public lying, has already assured him the top spot on the world’s biggest goon list ! 😀

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  8. JD – are you able to find out what the specific reason was for the disfellowshipping?

    Ronald Weinland disfellowshipping his own mother is pretty low, shows you what kind of scum Ron is.

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  9. Hahahahahaha, Yes ! I’m still laughing Ron ! ………. You go to jail for fraud, ………….. and YOU want everyone else to repent ? When are you gonna repent ? *giggling*

    Maybe PKG’ers, Christ has come to close Ron’s deceitful scam down ? and prevent Chris, Wayne, Laura, Johnny and Audra from continuing to corrupt the minds of his faithful ? Think about it ! 😀

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  10. Disfellowshipped in secret?! Doesn’t disfellowshipping someone mean that they are PUBLICLY marked (according to Scripture)? How can anyone PUBLICLY Mark someone secretly?!!?!!

    Could someone explain this to me??!!???

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  11. Yes, according to biblical instructions, they are publicly marked.

    You’re talking about a man where fulfilled prophecies are invisible to the naked eye.

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    1. What I hear is that Ron doesn’t like to df his members. Instead, he puts them on suspension. Sometimes they don’t come off suspension and leave instead.

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  12. Douglas:

    Christ chastised the wicked in public, to exhort them to repent, to remind the righteous to continue striving to improve, and to inform all as to who was working evil amongst them. Shine light on those to work in darkness and they flee. Ron does his work in darkness so he can keep the light from shining on himself – the OPPOSITE OF JESUS CHRIST.

    Darkness, greed, and lies = Ronald Weinland
    Light and truth = jesus Christ

    Don’t forget folks, it was JESUS who said “By their fruits shall ye know them…”

    So what are RONALD WEINLAND’S fruits?

    1. Went to jail for THEFT.
    2. Lied about the Return of Jesus Christ then lied by saying it was GOD’s plan to change the date.
    3. Has used GOD’S tithe money to buy expensive PANTIES, diamonds for his wife, expensive cars for his children, paid their mortgage and living expenses, gave Jeremy a CHURCH scholarship without telling anyone, among many other things.
    4. Lied on his daughter’s marriage certificate.
    5. LIED when he said he would repent and admit he was a false prophet when “2008-GFW” didn’t happen EXACTLY as HE said it would.

    ARE THOSE THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT?

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  13. Ron doesn’t like to disfellowship his member$$$, but he will curse US to Death….because we don’t pay him.

    $$$$ = forgiveness

    no money = no mercy…

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  14. More riotous Laughter ! ……… ‘ol Bubble-‘ed has been actually disfellowshipped from society ? So isnt a disfellowship, ordered by him invalid ?
    That’s probably why its a secret disfellowshipment ?
    Did not Hitler start ordreing the execution of his Generals and senior staffers, when he saw his plans were failing ? …….. In Ron’s case, the greatest danger to his relm, is the doubts in the minds of his senior members…………… Oh, it all must be soooooo embarrassing for the ‘ol goon ? 😀

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  15. Ron can’t even disfellowship people correctly….such is the dunce that he is.

    The church is supposed to avoid the company of a disfellowshipped person, exactly how does the church do this, if it’s a secret disfellowship?

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  16. Good que$tion, Budgie. Why indeed doe$ Ronald Weinland do the thing$ that he doe$?

    It i$ one of life’$ great my$terie$…

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  17. Ye$ indeed ! …….. Ron said recently that he was the third person in Elohim’s family………… has not repented for such an outrageious claim, thus signing his own demise.
    He said that simply to improve his popularity, amongst waining membership and discord in the remaining fellowship.

    It is said by the faithful, that the third person is in fact the “HOLY SPIRIT”, and no one is to mess with the heavenly supernatural, as it is unforgiveable sin, to mislead people in such a manner.
    A claim of this kind especially to ensure membership and to keep the dollars rolling in proves that Ron & Co. have no idea what they are dealing with, and therefore have no belief or respect in what they are ignorantly preaching …….. no responsibility or understanding whatsoever. Its all about money, so condemming themselves by their own words. It is not surprising therefore, to see what is now happening.

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  18. I sincerely hope that the PKGers get a clue and stop sending in their money. The less money the Weinland clan receives, the faster Ron will stop his lying and stealing. He can only take what he is given. He’ll stop preaching when nobody is listening. Maybe then, he’ll even finally give it up. One can always hope.

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  19. ONE YEAR AGO Ron wrote this (April 29th, 2012 PKG blog post)

    “…As the last apostle in this age, and as God’s end-time prophet, I am still telling people that this is true…that a short-lived WWIII is now at our doorstep.”

    LIE.

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  20. In his latest post Ronald stated that –

    “We do not know. God has not revealed when the trumpets are blown, except for the first and the last. God has inspired it to be written that we will not know these things until they have already occurred. God has also revealed that there are many overlapping and intertwining events within the fulfillment of these trumpets.

    God has not revealed it, but it may be that all seven trumpets were blown at the beginning, setting in motion those things that are to be fulfilled by each. We do not yet know, but we must understand that one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order”

    In the 4th Qtr. 2002 NEWS WATCH he said –

    Great destruction is brought upon this earth as a result of the FIRST four trumpets being blown, but even more devastating events are about to unfold when the LAST three trumpets are blown.

    There you are – an order, all not being blown at once and God had revealed it to him so he could put it in the newsletter.

    Chalk up another three contradictions to the camel’s back.

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  21. Not to mention what he also clearly wrote about them in his book! Sheesh – no wonder they are FINALLY starting to leave!

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  22. Welcome to the world of Weinland – where “God” is confused, and can’t remember what lies he has told from day to day. Strange how “God” keeps contradicting himself, and forgetting what he has written in His newsletters. Well, only another few years before “God” gets out of jail and starts another round of luxury cruises, massages, shipping BMWs to Germany, paying for jeremy/Audra’s living expenses, and so on with TITHES.

    Ever notice how everything becomes ‘spiritual’ after his physical prophecies FAIL?

    FALSE PROPHET.

    LIAR.

    SCUM.

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  23. If you go back and actually re-read what was written in GFW to lure in the fearful and gullible, it is more obvious than ever that this was all a bunch of bull.

    Page 5

    “Such prognosticators will only increase as disastrous events increase, and they will deceive many people. It is easy to “jump on the band wagon” (an American expression used to describe the behavior of conformists and opportunists). As disastrous events increase, they will claim that each event is some kind of sign or that it has special religious significance—after the event has already occurred. But who is presenting a time frame and getting more specific as all this increases?”

    NOT YOU. You are getting LESS specific as time goes on. You ARE the PROGNOSTICATOR that reads news articles in hindsight and trumpets them as your own signs AFTER the event has occurred. This was reverse psychology mind control. You are exactly what you accused others of being. You are not the source of clarity you claimed would set you apart.

    Only the people stupid enough to accept your rewrite of history are sticking around. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together is gone, or getting ready to leave.

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  24. And that is not an attack. That is telling the truth. In Ron’s own words (pg33),

    “Is God so small and so weak that He cannot make the truth known? You need to answer such questions!”

    But … I thought thinking was not allowed.

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  25. I bet ron ( the asshole ) is going crazy just sitting in his cell and he has no power over all the shit going on, but I guess he was already a nut job anyways !!!!!

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  26. It appears to me that Ron is just writing down his meandering thoughts as they occur, without giving any thought to the validity or sensibility of those thoughts. It’s obvious that his mind is being affected by being in prison because, even though he didn’t make sense before, he REALLY doesn’t make any sense now.

    C’mon, PKGers, you have free will. That is something God gave everyone, FREE WILL. You will not face the lake of fire if and when you leave this cult. That is a lie to keep you in, and to keep your money rolling in. Why would you want to continue following a man who continues to spew lies and nonsense about things he knows nothing about (as he admitted).

    I will continue to look forward to reading about more people leaving and finding a life of their own.

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  27. Avalo said: “Ever notice how everything becomes ‘spiritual’ after his physical prophecies FAIL?”

    In a fashion, Weinland is echoing the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ responses to their failed prophecies. In 1874, C.T. Russell and his early band of followers (later to become Jehovah’s Witnesses) fully expected that Jesus Christ would return that year, based on their interpretation of scripture. When nothing happened they decided that they certainly had the year right, so that it could only mean one thing – that JESUS CHRIST HAD RETURNED INVISIBLY!

    Russell then predicted, again based on biblical interpretation, that 40 years on, in 1914, Jesus Christ would abolish all political and financial institutions, and establish UNIVERSAL PEACE ON EARTH. When in 1914 the very opposite happened, and instead of world peace, the FIRST WORLD WAR BROKE OUT, what did the Jehovah’s Witnesses declare? They announced that that “although not everything that was predicted for 1914 happened” (!!), what had really happened was that Jesus Christ had come down from Heaven to rule on Earth – once again INVISIBLY!

    It seems that INVISIBILITY and SPIRITUALISATION come in handy when false prophets try to explain their failures to predict the future! Very handy indeed, given that nobody can actually disprove INVISIBLE or SPIRITUALISED occurrences. Therefore, they must have happened! Ah – Sweet Logic, I salute you!

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  28. Greetings,

    It is with deep regret that I have to inform everyone that Ramona Weinland, Scott and Kris Cameron have chosen to leave the Church of God – PKG and have thereby chosen to leave the fellowship of God’s people. They are disfellowshipped from God’s Church.

    Beth Bucheit
    Sr. Elder the COG-PKG

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  29. Ronald Weinlad said ” God has inspired it to be written that we will not know these things until they have already occurred”

    Such horse baloney. A complete and outright lie.

    Rev 1:1
    (1) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him TO SHOW [BEFORE THEY HAPPEN] unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass:

    Are you going to believe God? Or that proven liar Ronald Weinland?

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  30. Beth Bucheit
    Sr. Elder the COG-PKG

    Beth seems to have forgotten the biblical injunction against women ruling in the church.

    She gave her soul away for a title.

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  31. unbelieveable! Beth Bucheit is my sister and I am devastated she has sold her soul for this title. How is it possible
    this man has these people so brainwashed?! Last year she sent me a goodbye that Christ was coming back last year. He
    was a no show and now she is a senior elder and still waiting and Pentecost will come and go and still no return of
    Jesus Christ and she will still be slobbering at weinland’s feet so she can sign senior elder under her name. What a
    crock!!!

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  32. ANYONE can use a fake name and post anything they want here, so I wouldn’t start believing that it is Beth saying it. It seems to be true, as Mike pointed out, but I wouldn’t get to worked up about who is what until we kNOW for sure.

    I post stuff here all the time, and clearly my actual name is NOT “Avalokiteshvara” (the Mahayana Buddhist Saint of Compassion). Often I have posted information about my family that is true but altered just enough so I don’t give my/their identity away. So “JD” might be doing so to protect his/her/someone’s identity, and Beth was actually not the one who said it…even though the actual info about Ramona, Chris, etc, may be true. In such a case I just let it be what it is until I hear it from Ramona herself for example.

    But onc again, if it is TRUE….Wow!! I am getting WRINGER and WRONGER about the intelligence of the PKG with every passing minute these days! Who knew so many intelligent people were lurking in the shadows of Weinland’s sick “church”?

    CAROL;

    As much as I hate Weinland and ANYONE who supports this piece of sh*t, including your sister, I hope you don’t take what I say personally. I have, and will continue to refer to people like your sister in extremely negative ways, because they are aiding and abetting a proven criminal and I find it sickening. But I would like you to know that it is NOTHING personal and I hope you understand that I mean you, yourself, no harm by it. You love your sister, and I honor that love, even though she is acting badly. I will continue to go after any/all PKG, but any/all hurt I cause you by what I call your sister is collateral damage, and I will understand if you hate me for it. If you are a Christian, forgive me.And if you believe in the Lake of Fire, then I will clearly be in it (according to what the Bible says) so you will have your revenge eventually.

    Yahweh doesn’t exist, but if He does, then ‘all accounts will be settled’…including Weinland, which should make everyone pretty damn happy…

    Think of it as a double whammy – you’ll get to see Weinland and I thrown into the Fire, except he’ll be screaming and I’ll be pointing at him and laughing. 🙂

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  33. Do you think it is true? Is there any secondary/tertiary confirmation from anyone that also received this e-mail?

    So many PKG members come here and troll the site (RayKaz/DD), I just automatically assume this is a misinfo attempt by some low IQ PKG member to make us look bad by believing false reports.

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  34. I did not see that email but I was told about all the above being disfellowshipped and Beth being made a senior elder. And Rterlecki confirmed that it was true. I don’t think he would make something like that up.

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