Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Jeffery’s Story

Here is a guest post written by Jeffery, a former PKG elder over the Florida area.  Jeffery has participated in the comment section on this blog since late last year.  His resignation email was republished here

Here is Jeffery’s story:

First, I would like to take this moment to thank Mike for this opportunity to present my experience with the notorious Ronald Weinland and “his” church known as CoG-PKG. I also want to thank Mike for his website and all the information he has incorporated into his blog which was a great benefit to me in making my decision to leave CoG-PKG.

I have a history with the Worldwide Church of God that began in 1973. I was a devoted member up to the moment when WCG changed the doctrine of keeping the Sabbath and Holy Days. The year was 1994. It was not until 2001 that I had a growing desire to find the church that I once knew. Of course, this was all done through the Internet. However, I did not make a choice until 2007. My first encounter was with the Restored Church of God led by David Pack. This lasted only a few months. I rejected this church because I found it to be too demanding on one’s life. This frustrated me so I continue my search on the Internet.

I came across Ronald Weinland’s website just after my experience with David Pack.  At first, I was not impressed with Ron’s website. I just wrote it off as being one of those nutty doomsday preachers, not realizing I was correct in my assumption. But eventually I decided to read both of his books.

You have to understand that I was desperate and looking for anything that resembled Mr. Armstrong’s teachings. Because of this desire to be a part of the church again, there was enough of what I recognized of Mr. Armstrong’s teachings that led me to CoG-PKG. I was then hooked and proceeded to become more involved.

Eventually I was able to attend with the Florida group. There were many problems with this group. Such as excessive drinking on the Sabbath and an elder who was a hard core controlling individual and encouraged the excessive drinking as a means to control the younger members who knew no better. I took issue with this and confronted Ron and Johnny about this matter. The next thing I knew I was ordained an elder and took over the affairs of the Florida group. Did this affect me? Yes it did! I become enthralled with the idea of being an elder in God’s Church! To clarify, I always had the desire to be a minister and now, in my pride, I was one!! So, for a period of five years I ran the affairs of the Florida group. Also, I met and had several social engagements with Ron, Laura, Johnny and Myrtle in Florida and Ohio. They knew me and I knew them.

So what led to my departure from CoG-PKG?

Let me interject this first. I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Human Resource Management and Organizational Structure and Behavior. The majority of my career has been in senior management in municipal government. What is the purpose of this information?

To begin, I started to take notice of the lack of qualified individuals in leadership positions. I am referring to individuals who were handpicked (favoritism) by Ron Weinland for leadership positions without having the qualifications or proper training for the position. It became obvious that Ron was the sole authority figure as he did not allow any ordained individuals to have any decisive authority regarding local matters without his prior approval.

That was the first red flag, in that, I had to question why was I an elder and for what purpose? Actually there was a purpose and that was to report to Ron of any bad behavior of a member — in other words, a tattletale! This went against the grain of all my education and experience in government along with my experience in church structure that I was accustomed to in Worldwide Church of God. I came to the conclusion that I was dealing with a micromanaging dictator! This did not set well with me to say the least. This was the beginning of my taking a different view of what CoG-PKG was all about.

However, let me say this: some may think that I was out of line because this was Ron Weinland’s church and I was overstepping my bounds. Not so. I understand government and I know how it functions. CoG-PKG, in my opinion, had all the trappings of a cult! This was the moment when the rose colored glasses hit the ground and shattered!!

But the real failure of Ron Weinland was his second failure of Christ’s return in 2012. I can remember clearly sitting on my patio wondering “why” this event did not happen! Well, to make a long story short, I gave it another year. However, the thrill was gone and I started looking deeper into all the doctrinal changes from what I learned in WCG that Ron claimed to have authority to change.

Let’s start with the proclaiming of being a prophet.  I need to interject here that the questioning of the claim of being a prophet started when I was looking up something in the OT that I came across the eighteenth chapter of Deuteronomy verses 20-22. Let me tell you this! Those verses were burned into my mind and ended the influence of Ron Weinland immediately! Do I think this was an intervention of God? Absolutely!! For me, it was the absolute end of CoG-PKG!! Also, I scrutinized this matter of claiming to be the two witnesses and I was appalled at myself for believing such heresy! At this point, I was done!

Another element in the decision to leave CoG-PKG was the court transcripts of Ron Weinland’s trial. The only two transcripts that I read were the government’s opening statement and the memorandum of sentencing and that was all it took!! Case closed!! It is over and done with!! However, I had a bigger problem to deal with and that was on how to make my exit.

My exit was very trying for me, in that, I knew the effect it would have on the Florida group and my wife Diane. This was very difficult for me to deal with and I knew I had to go. But, as fate would have it, my wife noticed that I no longer read the postings and was very inattentive during sermons and basically ignored everything about CoG-PKG. So, the day came when my wife sat down with me and asked me if I still believed Ron and Laura were who they claimed to be. My answer to her was NO! We had a very long discussion and I told her I would be resigning after Pentecost. Well, my wife did not agree with that and simply stated, “you need to go now”. I jumped at the opportunity and composed my resignation letter and emailed it out to Johnny without any hesitation!!  Do I think that this was God’s intervention again? Absolutely! I was freed to leave CoG-PKG with my wife’s blessings!! BAM, I was out and gone!!!!

In closing, I am sure some of you who knew me or of me are asking yourselves, why is Jeffery posting at this site? This is a fair question to ask. I will tell you this, I strongly believe I am to do this for the reason that a voice must be heard from a source that is credible to some members of CoG-PKG. Is there an element of anger from me? Yes there is, to a point. I speak for myself and from my experience, the Weinlands are charlatans and are heartless to the highest degree! As I see myself, it is my duty to speak out against them and I will do so! Why? Because if the voices are silent then they (Weinlands) will continue in their deceitful activities destroying spiritual lives and marriages for their own selfish gains unchecked!

Jeffery, thank you for sharing your story here on my blog.

I would like to add my own emphasis to what I feel is the main reason for Jeffery’s departure from PKG — a simple read of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and a reality check.  Ron prophesied, it didn’t happen, he’s a false prophet and you shouldn’t listen to him.  That alone should be enough to choose your exit.  One should not need a website like this with court transcripts from his criminal trial or evidence that he falsified government documents even more than his tax returns (Audra’s marriage certificate).  That stuff is icing on the cake.

It’s not easy to digesting that what you believed is not true.  Grappling with the decision to leave may be slow.  It took Jeffery well over a year to transition out of PKG.  This website is here to whatever extent it can smooth that transition.  But the decision to leave needs to be yours.

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14 thoughts on “Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Jeffery’s Story

  1. Interesting read Jeffery – thanks for sharing that!

    I am also struck by how many of the trappings of a cult Weinlands organization has:

    – They practice Shunning / disfellowshipping
    – Instant friend circle / love bombing
    – They use loaded language to make it seem that criticism of the cult equates a sin
    – An authoritarian, hierarchical structure
    – Demonizing the outside world and non-cult society
    – personality cult / leader worship

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  2. And lets not forget how Ro has began, ended, and began AGAIN (!!!) his false role as one of the Two Witnesses…ALL before ANY of the Biblical Trumpets have occurred…while the Bible (Book of Revelation of JESUS CHRIST) states clearly that the Witnesses do NOT begin their work AT ALL until AFTER the SIXTH Trumpet!!! How much more of a liar and denier of Christ does he have to be before you PKG people wisely wake up like Jeffrey has?

    It is simple. The PKG must ignore Jesus Christ in order to pretend that a convicted criminal and proven liar is more of an authority on God than the Bible. There are zero excuses left. The PKG are devout members by their own desire to reject Christ in favor of an criminal false prophet.

    Case closed. The Lake Of Fire awaits them. The Bible, The Word of God, says so…

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  3. REASONS TO LEAVE RONALD WEINLAND

    1) Claimed office of prophet, made official prophetic utterance, prophecy failed :by RON’S OWN MOUTH that is a false prophet, he is a false prophet
    2) Bible is explicit, BOTH witnesses are MEN
    (YLT: Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the TWO ***SONS*** of oil, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. )
    3) Ron teaches a FALSE GOD (ie Christ is created being)
    4) Ron’s doctrines are a mass of muddled chaos, changing month after month, often contradicting itself in the same post.
    God is NOT the author of chaos.
    Would God’s leading and most powerful servants be in such confusion???? NO.
    5) Ron has been convicted of theft of a quarter of a million dollars in tax evasion.
    6) Ron and wife used tithe money to pay for all kinds of lusts: expensive jewelry, expensive paintings, expensive cars, expensive house.

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  4. There are TWO kinds of FALSE prophets

    1) A false prophet that prophecies something that FAILS to come to pass.
    *** THIS IS THE EASY CASE ***
    That person is a FALSE PROPHET

    2) Did you know the bible says a prophet can prophecy something that comes TRUE, and STILL BE A FALSE PROPHET???
    *** THIS IS A MORE DIFFICULT CASE ***
    This false prophet will teach SOME truth, but teaches or worships a FALSE GOD
    (ie teaching that Christ is a created being, would be the case of a FALSE GOD)
    Deu 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

    Deu 13:2 And the sign or the wonder COME TO PASS, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after OTHER GODS{FALSE GODS}, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
    Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

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  5. Jeff – “As I see myself, it is my duty to speak out against them and I will do so!”

    I hope others feel the same way.

    If you can, do not just leave, tell the local congregation you attend, why you believe Ron is false and why you are leaving.

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  6. I agree that someone who gained the respect of the membership needed to explain their story here so to add testimony for those who are breaking the rule of not reading this website’s postings. Awesome!! Thanks Jeffrey for taking the time to share as you have.

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  7. Thanks Jeffrey for telling it like it is and Thanks Mike for this site even tough Ron doomed you ! 🙂 how about all the other guys he doomed are the still alive, I belive Ron ( The asshole ) will beat them to there grave !!!!

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  8. I hope people aren’t leaving Ronald Weinland for the WRONG reason.

    Certainly there are more than plenty of right reasons to leave Ron….but I fear some may be leaving for the wrong reason.

    The wrong reason to leave would be because others left. You shouldn’t leave a church or join a church because others are there or others left.

    You should leave because the guy is a false prophet or because the guy is teaching heresies or the “fruit” is bad.

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  9. Jeffrey,
    Thanks for sharing your experience in the Weinland PKG cult. You are doing the right thing by participating here and exposing Ron and Laura and their abusive scam for God’s tithe money. I am here for this exact reason. What the jurors saw and how the Weinlands are and what they are really all about is STEALING MONEY from unsuspecting tithers. The jury was appalled by the abuse and theft of peoples money by Ron’s so called “church.”

    It was very easy for us to convict Ron due to the way he and his family operate and simply steal money people THINK they are tithing to God which and is being used for church purposes when in fact this tithe money is doing NOTHING for that purpose. ALL of this money becomes PERSONAL INCOME for the Weinlands and is spent frivolously on their excessive lusts and wants. Do they really need high dollar BMWs to go loot the P.O. Box? NO, they do not. Does Laura and Audra need hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry? Do they need expensive homes paid for with these tithes?

    What I saw in court pissed me off and made me sick. I feel it is my duty to expose Ron, Laura, Audra, and Jeremy also. I am here long after the trial and will not quit until these con-artist thieves are out of business. Hopefully, this will come sooner than later. If Ron and Laura did not have their SCAM CULT disguised as a so called “church” they would all be in jail for a VERY LONG TIME. No doubt about that. These scumbags are predators and deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison for the damage they have done.

    They could care less about God or religion. They do not believe nor practice what they preach whatsoever. This was shown and PROVEN over and over during Ron’s trial. THE WEINLANDS ONLY WANT THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!! How can anyone follow and believe anything this lying sack of shit says? NOTHING Ron says comes to be true. NOTHING! Ron is a CONVICTED FELON.

    If followers quit sending money Ron and the Weinland Scam Clan would be nowhere to be found. Does God really need this tithe cash or do the lying, conniving Weinlands need tithe cash to support their Luxury Lifestyles? The Weinlands are NOT people of God with morals and ethics. They use God as an EXCUSE TO STEAL MONEY from people which they PREY UPON.

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  10. Randy,
    It is good to hear that Laura the PIG can not afford to send presents. I hope the Weinlands wind up financially broken, divorced, and homeless just like many followers they have ruined the lives of. They deserve any and every bad thing coming there way and them some. PIGS!

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  11. “micromanaging dictator” BINGO! Maybe add cocky and arrogant to that.

    You nailed that in a description of Ron. However, I feel Ron is somewhat of a PKG political figure. I think Ron’s PIG (Laura) has a lot to do with really running the show. I am sure there is tons of behind the scenes stuff going on in the Weinland Luxury household.

    In court it was shown repeatedly that what Ron says goes. That is it, nothing but what Ron says and wants is what happens no matter what. The word CULT came to my mind immediately. Ron and Laura are the Profit Poster Children for CULT leaders. The Weinlands seemed fairly Hitler like in their operation of PKG their make believe internet “church” they run as a SCAM to STEAL TITHE MONEY for PERSONAL INCOME.

    The ONLY charity they could show in court was Jeremy’s PKG scholarship which was ANOTHER LIE for them trying to explain why church tithe money was used to pay for his university courses.

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  12. juror bags,

    You wrote: “I think Ron’s PIG (Laura) has a lot to do with really running the show…”

    I do say old chap, I believe the word “wench” would fit Laura a bit better. It brings up memories of the dark ages that is so much Armstrongism.

    “Wench” began as a general term for a girl or woman, and over the centuries acquired a variety of meanings, including female servant, lower-class female, and prostitute. It is mostly used today as a jokingly affectionate archaic allusion to Shakespearean ribaldry.

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