The Pre-Recorded Feast

All of the Feast of Tabernacles sermons are pre-recorded and posted on the PKG web site.  Last Great Day sermons as well.

Including one given by Jeremy Weinland.  Listening to it, sounds as though he’s reading from a script.  Perhaps prepared by the Silent Witness herself,

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103 thoughts on “The Pre-Recorded Feast

  1. But after your hardness and impenitent heart treasure up to yourself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God

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  2. “… Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them that are causing the divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which you have learned: and turn away from them….For they that are such serve not our Lord Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent …”

    I found these scriptures to be of great interest to me. This is the base scriptures that the cog’s use for disfellowshipment of troublesome members. However this can be applied in a reverse manner to address false teachers and prophets (weinlands). God instructs true believers to flee from false prophets and teachers!!

    Now here is where I am going with this. There some of us who left the gulag on our own and where not put out by the fraudulent ronnie the hoax. In other words, it was an action taken totally based on the above scripture to “protect” ourselves from what is being described in the above scripture. Those written words, “… serve their own belly….by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the innocent …”

    Folks!! Here is the real truth about the weinlands and they they aptly described to the “tee” in those scriptures!!!

    Get this ronnie, myself and others “marked” you for what you are and disfellowshipped you because of the threat you posed to our own spiritual health!!! You do not have to be a minister to protect yourself from an errant false teacher that you are!!!! It is God’s Word that condemns you dude!!!!

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  3. IMPENITENT best describes Them. Yes , They are Condemned by God’s Word.

    Whoever leads into captivity goes into captivity and those who murder with the sword will be killed with the sword.

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  4. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    Evil Hearts full of Delusion .

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  5. Amen Mike, through them out and tar and feather there ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are not Agianst the church it’s the crooks that run it

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  6. Like I said before get someone in there that will open the books every 3-6 months and let everyone see where the money goes if they are honest fine ! Ron and Laura hide and keep everything a secret

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  7. Randy,

    ronnie the hoax and laura the yenta would never allow the opening of the books because it would be an immediate exposure of what they really are. However you are right on with the secretive nature of the thieves. That should raise the suspicion of any reasonable individual. Maybe juror bags can reveal some of the questionable expenditures. I, personally, would love to examine the revenues and expenditures of the gulag since 2005 to present.

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  8. Elder my guess is that Ron ALWAYS did exactly what he pleased with the money. He just finally got caught.This goes back to the enormous sense of entitlement they have always had. All cloaked in humility until the books were opened. PKGers see this but they simply don’t care.All he needs is for people to also think he is entitled and he’s all set. They REALLY believe all the hokum he can dish out. I believe it’s because they have allowed Ron to TRANSLATE the Bible for them. They simply take his word for it.

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  9. I feel for “movin’ on”. Been there, done that. You’ll decide what is best for you and family and make peace with yourself, only time does that. Don’t be to hard on yourself. Once you reach the conclusion that you’ve tried all you can and everything thing you can, it will get easier for you.

    As for Ron and his “church”, I’ve been far better off without it, as many here will say. Yes, I miss some of the people that claimed to be friends, but a a true friend will always be there no matter what. Some friends have contacted me, others have not. Guess I feel it is their loss, just like I feel it is Gary’s loss. With his pride etc…he’ll never see it until the end, just like Ron. Some will never admit that they have been wrong cause of it. In the end, they will be old, lonely, unfulfilled people, but this is their chose.

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  10. Glade I’m Free:

    I understand exactly how you feel and agree completely. My door is open to the ones I know in the gulag and always will be. Isn’t amazing the love and concern we still have for them and yet they allow the fraudulent one (ron) to distort and control their personal lives – how tragic –

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  11. Elder, when we first learned about the Sabbath and plan of God we wanted to tell everyone we met. LOL They couldn’t hear it then and the PKGers can’t hear it now. They are “stuck” believing a certain way . At this point they are no different than any one in a worldly religion. They simply believe everything the ” priest or Prophet ” says as coming from God. They have built a “wall” of men between God and themselves and they don’t see it. This is something we cannot get across to them. We have been labeled by Ron as either rablel rousers or never were’s. Time will show some of them the error of Ron’s ways but some will never come to the knowledge of the truth. Personally it took me years to come to the full knowledge of problems within the COGS. At first I thought it was just WWCG but when Ron fell from grace I realized it was all of them. The difficulty is deciphering what is Gods and what are the church teachings. Once you get a few of these things straight in your mind , you are on the road to recovery. Hopefully over the next few years a few more will begin to see the damage all the COGS have done.

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  12. Ozy:

    I now understand exactly what you are talking about. The “wall of men” that stands between you and God is very true and real and it is demanded of the membership to “not” question and obey unconditionally this “wall of men”. Well, that no longer works for me and from this day forward I will challenge any individual who attempts to demand “unconditional submission” to them and not God regarding my life will be confronted quickly!!!

    Since I have “marked” (disfellowshipped) ronnie the hoax, my life has been going in the right direction. I have reviewed all of ronnie’s failed prophesies and what he based them on and have come to the conclusion that it is all pure imagination of a diabolical delusional fool!

    What comes to my mind is that one group of individuals in the NT (Breans) that if someone came preaching something different they would quickly kick them to the curb!! And what was their defense? It was their knowledge of what God had taught them directly through searching the scriptures daily on their own and they had the ability to recognize someone like the fraudulent one (ron) and send them down the road!! I am doing this very thing and it is eye opening at what I am learning in order to protect myself from this day forward from charlatans like ron and laura!!

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  13. It’s good to actually obey Scripture and disfellowship the Weinlands.

    It would also be good if they repented, returned what money they could and apologize. One Armstrongist minister actually did apologize this year for being a false prophet, but didn’t follow through and quit the ministry.

    The Weinlands are ultimate fools, for if they don’t repent and the Bible is true, they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, be burned up and we will be done with them for all eternity: Gone — just gone… and forgotten.

    It amazes me that they have no fear.

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  14. Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be showed before the whole congregation.

    Whoever digs a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolls a stone, it will return on him.

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  15. Elder, if ten men were lost in the woods and nine wanted to go a certain way but the 10th man wanted to go the way he knew in his heart was right , he most likely would go along with the nine lost men so he wouldn’t end up alone in the forest. Unfortunately most of us just go along with the group you identify with. It’s very difficult and sometimes a little lonely to go off on your own. You also feel vulnerable when you go against the majority of the group.WWCG did teach us how to live different than most people and survive the trip. We know deep down in that it is the narrow road or the road less traveled that is the one we should be on. We cannot worry about what others think and we are ONLY responsible to God alone. This unconditional submission you mention goes against everything God actually teaches us. We are to be set apart from the way most men think. Men like Ron try to keep everyone in their place . It’s only when we see this that we become free to worship God almighty as an actual adult and not a child following along. Ron can’t have ANYONE thinking for themselves.This goes against everything he teaches. He couldn’t be the ONLY one God speaks to then could he? He must convince everyone that they can only reach God through him. God almighty rent the veil in the Holy of Holies and made himself available to all men, so we would not have to go through a priest, but rather have direct access to him at all times. It’s so simple, but men love to complicate things to suit themselves. There’s gold in them thar hills you know. You just need men to go along with you , to be part of the nine rather than the one.

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  16. Just because Ron is an EVIL LEADER does not mean we should not *follow* any leader.

    We should follow a leader if he’s following Christ as Paul or Peter said.

    Now clearly Ron is a greedy evil man who is only after filthy lucre. Even the US government sees that, and of course ron stole from the government to the tune of a quarter million dollars.

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  17. Nope. Skip the leaders. Direct connection and personal accountability are the purest form of worship. Leaders always eventually fail and disappoint. Then the followers are left to make excuses and to settle for second best. That is not to say that we cannot occasionally learn from strong, knowledgeable, or experienced people, but they should be more like a reference book when you need to look something up. Also, like communism, Armstrongism has a horrible history of corrupting its leaders, turning them into self-absorbed despots who exploit and oppress. So-called grooming of leaders has been tried with both philosophies enough now, over and over and over, and the result is always the same. Turns them into psychopaths, or attracts people who already were psychopaths.

    One of the most horrifying non-sequitur statements from our shared pasts always was “Hi, I’m one of ‘God’s ministers’, and I’m here to help you!”

    BB

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  18. Martin:

    Individuals need to evaluate so called “leaders” to make sure that they are following Christ. It is this “unconditional submission” that is demanded by these leaders that is the problem. I agree with BB where you can trust and learn from someone who has the knowledge and experience that you can learn from, however, when an individuals starts to take the position that they are God’s chosen then that is the time to question and examine this individual.

    Failed prophesies, demand of tithes, conviction of felony offenses, lavish life styles, and if you dare question me your are out are “red flags” that this individual “is not” following Christ. It is the responsibility of the individual to protect themselves from these wolves. The above speaks loudly against ronnie the hoax and others like him!

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  19. 2 Corinthians 11
    4For if he who comes preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or if you receive a different spirit, which you did not receive, or a different “good news”, which you did not accept, you put up with that well enough.

    13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as Christ’s apostles. 14And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is no great thing therefore if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

    19For you bear with the foolish gladly, being wise. 20For you bear with a man, if he brings you into bondage, if he devours you, if he takes you captive, if he exalts himself, if he strikes you on the face. 21I speak by way of disparagement

    Ron Weinland Is a Golden Calf. He has brings another Jesus! a False Christ .

    “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

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  20. PKG is in Bondage ! They are following Ronald right down the path of destruction . You would think Ron would have some Fear , but he doesn’t because he is an Arrogant child. In his mind World Wide Church was Gods, HWA was an Apostle that could do no wrong, And Joe T was the Man of sin. This is the Lie that he and his wife believe and this is the False Gospel he has Brought to the people .

    The Truth is , Ron is in Jail for 489 more days for not paying his Taxes. It is 100% proven that he does NOT Follow The Jesus Christ of the Bible . It is 100% proven from scripture ,that he is a False Apostle and A False prophet .

    PKG does not care what the bible says , because they follow a complete jackass! They don’t mind at all because they don’t even SEE that Ron has Brought them into Bondage and he Takes from them , And he sure does not mind exalting himself !

    2 Thessalonians 2
    9Even him, (False Prophets False Apostles )whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all delusion of unrighteousness in THEM that perish; because THEY received not the love of the truth, that THEY might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send THEM STRONG DELUSION , that THEY should BELIEVE A LIE 12That THEY all might be damned who believed not the truth, BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS

    And I’m sure they are all Taking Pleasure in their False Feast! Where they join hand in hand with Ron and his Unrighteous Doctrine of Lies and deceit .

    Proverbs 11
    7Hopes placed in mortals die with them;
    all the promise of their power comes to nothing.

    21Be sure of this: The wicked will not go unpunished,
    but those who are righteous will go free.

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  21. Martin, the problem with following any leader is that at some point , this leader will travel down a wrong path and you will follow him out of habit or love. We need to set our own path with the Bible as our guide. Think about it Martin, God gave us a mind and reasoning power for a reason. Who did Christ follow? Only God Almighty! He found NO MAN worthy of following in his day and there are none now . You are following a human being with greed and sin in his very nature. Sorry, but I’m finished with that. If I can’t find it in the Bible , I’m not interested.

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  22. BB, one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes was ” how to serve man.” Turned out to be a cook book. LOL . I have felt a little “roasted” over the years!

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  23. When Ron was still JUST a minister, I felt we were still in a good place. When he became the Apostle, the Prophet and the Witness he became infallible . Then you knew EVERYTHING he said was Gods lips to Ron’s ears and he could NEVER make a mistake again. If he turned out to be wrong, it was somehow God trying to tell us something new. NEVER WRONG is not mans way, but it is Ron’s way. I’m afraid all these church leaders are the same way. There are many things you can learn from others, but no more following with the fear of being tossed out if you disagree. From HWA to REW there was never a time when ” questions” were good.

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  24. Our church always prided itself on not having idols made of metal or stone, but we didn’t need them. We made ours out of flesh and blood, and set them up in the place of God to follow and worship. Believing they can’t do a thing wrong and are the very word of God. If you are searching for ” new truth” and the words of God , READ THE BIBLE!! Stop letting other men interpret it for you.

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    1. Ron had a sermon about spiritual idolatry back in 2000, just before kicking the lay board to the curb so he could take over. Ironic (iRonIc) that Ron is the spiritual idol of PKG members.

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  25. As human beings we seem to be hard wired to admire and worship something, whether it be sports, Hollywood or our minister . We need to understand this about ourselves so we are able to keep it in check. Men know this about other men and exploit it every day in some form or another.

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  26. History repeating itself . HWA was an Idol to Many people across the world. It would be Wise for many to go back and Measure that man against Scripture ! At what point did he go astray from the simplicity that is in Christ ? Start with Family relationships .

    Galatians 5
    9A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough

    All it takes is one false Doctrine .

    James 3:6
    And the tongue is a fire. The tongue, a world of unrighteousness, is placed among the parts of our bodies. IT POLLUTES THE WHOLE BODY!(Church) SETS THE COURSE OF LIFE ON FIRE and is set on fire by hell.

    The body is Polluted . The glory is turned to shame.

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  27. To start with his flip flop on marriage and Divorce , That has caused the destruction of who knows how many families over the last 4 Decades . Totally against the simple Words of Jesus Christ , Paul and Moses .

    Please do not mistake what I am trying to say here. I do not condemn anyone who has remarried and i do not believe they are being Judged for doing so . I do condemn the Teaching as being unbiblical and not in line with what Jesus Christ said for the church. I believe HWA changed it in the Mid 70s , How ironic since then we have seen the Largest Divorce rate nation wide of all time, and climbing .
    I condemn the Teachers who Teach people how to live Wrong. The church is supposed to be different than the world. The teaching of Christ and Paul showed what was right for the church. Again ,NOT judging or Condemning anyone who has remarried , just making the point that the Teaching of HWA is out of line with God’s Word.
    This destructive doctrine coupled with The False prophecy that has people , till this day worried more about the Germans attacking and not worried enough about treating there fellow brothers and sisters Right should be it. It has been a massive problem for people’s Peace. And the love of God Grows cold with such Division .There are other things as well , but those two things are massive ! a major stumbling block . Note the great divide within all HWA has created . A house divided will not stand . It was destroyed , But it continues today and is worse. Question , What is The Fruit ?

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  28. 2Timothy3:16
    All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

    I believe that, And I do not believe any man can come along and just call himself an Apostle ,and change the bible for his ends. Ron has done this now MANY times! Ron sitting in Jail right now for tax evasion thinks he can change the words of Christ in the bible! Ron you fool WAKE UP! Your in jail and the bible is still the bible.
    Jeremiah 23:28
    he that has my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? said the LORD.

    They must be measured by Scripture. HWA looked great ,Almost Grandfatherly . A nice man who seemed to follow the bible to a tee, But did he ? As the world loosened up Morally ,So went the church of God away from Scripture. So subtle . God is Love and Peace. Not confusion and Hatred.

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  29. HWA said he GAVE the church to GTA on a platter. I knew then that this was a family business. I just didn’t think Ron would be so brazen to do the same thing. It’s a legacy that is passed down in the COGS. People follow Ron because they followed HWA. It’s a bad habit.

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  30. Ron has literally put himself above God . (IDOLATRY )Those verses in Thessalonians are for him and those like him. He should be very afraid of what he has done . But he is filled with his delusion , You and I both know this well , Ozy . You have seen how this man works . Sudden destruction will come and we will see how the foundation of PKG holds up.
    Deueteronomy 4:
    23Take heed to yourselves, lest you forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD your God has forbidden you. 24For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God

    25When you shall beget children, and children’s children, and you shall have remained long in the land, and shall corrupt yourselves, and make a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, and shall do evil in the sight of the LORD your God, to provoke him to anger: 26I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that you shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto you go over Jordan to possess it; you shall not prolong your days on it, but shall utterly be destroyed. 27And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and you shall be left few in number among the heathen, where the LORD shall lead you. 28And there you shall serve gods, the work of men’s hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell. 29But if from there you shall seek the LORD your God, you shall find him, if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul. 30When you are in tribulation, and all these things are come on you, even in the latter days, if you turn to the LORD your God, and shall be obedient to his voice; 31(For the LORD your God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake you, neither destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which he swore to them.
    revelation 13:15
    And it was given unto him to give breath to it, even to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    Is that not what Ron and the rest of them do ? If you do not worship them they say Hit the road Your a dead man.

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  31. “And it was given unto him to give breath to it, even to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.”

    I don’t see anybody being killed, therefore the WWCoG is not the beast, and PKG is not the image of the beast.

    Note “image” is singular not plural, the multiple hundreds of splinters can not be the “image of the beast”.

    You can not have multiple “images”, there is only one image of the beast. It is the papacy based off the Roman system.

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  32. Leading people away from God is Tantamount to Murder . False prophecy sure will kill people. That’s what God says in his word.

    1″Woe to the shepherds who are DESTROYING and scattering the sheep of My pasture!” declares the LORD.

    Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3You eat the fat, and you clothe you with the wool, you KILL THEM that are fed

    4O Israel, your prophets are like the foxes in the deserts. 5You have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD

    Yes ,those are for you Ron . But they do not See or Hear.

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  33. And don’t forget what Christ said , This is a very serious matter.

    1Then said he to the disciples, It is impossible but that offenses will come: but woe to him, through whom they come! 2It were BETTER for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 3Take heed to yourselves: If your brother trespass against you, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4And if he trespass against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to you, saying, I repent; you shall forgive him.

    Repent with a full heart , Ron and I will forgive You.

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  34. And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    They believe a lie.

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  35. I found it interesting that he is still blaming the government for why he is in prison. I wonder if his statement against the government could effect him from any early release? Just wondering.

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    1. I don’t think his statements would affect his time off for good behavior. It’s not like he has to go before a parole board.

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