Chopping Block

Several weeks ago, False Prophet Ronald Weinland announced that he was going to perform some trimming on his bloated ministry.  Comments were left on the prior post with a list of elders’ names and demotions.

It seems that demotions were communicated by letter.  A form letter at that. Here is a copy of the form letter to demoted elders  as posted in the comment:

This letter is being sent to you to inform you that you are being moved from the role of an elder to that of an associate elder. This is rather new for the Church, since our history coming from Worldwide has been different. During those days, an ordination, or specific office in the ministry, was viewed as a life-long placement. However, in this time that is now before us, there is a different design and purpose in what God is working, and we are simply to learn from it and support it. God has specific reasons for these changes and the streamlining that is taking place in the ministry. Some of that will be mentioned here, but other matters will be learned as you go forward.

At this point, there are right at 40 ministers being directly affected by these changes and reorganization, with the likelihood of a few more that will follow. So we are sending most all of you this same letter concerning this specific change, although there are a lot of others who are now being fully removed/retired from the ministry.

As a whole, God is now preparing and training a group within the ministry who will become quite active as we go into the final stages of this end-time and they are primarily being readied for responsibilities once the Millennium is established. Many of you have issues with health and/or age that simply restrict you from carrying out certain duties. This may also restrict you from being able to serve in what is coming.

In a few cases, it is simply a matter that the need for your service as a minister does not or will not exist where you are located. This also means that the need for some roles within the ministry are not now needed for the same purpose that existed several years ago and for what God was teaching and molding within the Church. Many things have changed since this process of a widely expanded ministry began.

Yet for a few of you, this is a matter of your need to more deeply examine yourself and the example you have been living that reflects upon the ministry. Ministers are indeed held to a higher standard of responsibility and example in what is reflected in our life to others around us. It is a matter of striving to be on greater guard in all that we do, say, and administer in our responsibilities toward the world around us, toward the Church, and also our personal families. Over the next year, this will be the time to make the necessary changes that have been put off or ignored for too long now.

In other cases, the change in one’s role may simply be a matter for the need of stepping aside so that others can be inserted who need the experiences that can only be gleaned, learned, and molded into a person by serving for a period of time in the ministry. This is God’s work in us and it is by His design.

Everyone being moved from the role of an elder to that of an associate elder will be receiving this “form letter”, although, some few of you are being given more than this letter. For those receiving more direct correction where it is needed, you know some of the primary matters that must be addressed and changed in your life. Others will need to genuinely examine yourself before God to see it there are things that you need to address and change. Although there are still some of you who have consistently been moving forward and growing spiritually and the change for your role in the ministry is simply a matter of some of the other reasons listed, and not primarily of a matter of correction.

Lastly, is a matter of great importance to Laura and myself. We have loved working in a more direct manner with you due to your being in the ministry. In a short time, we have been through much together. We are so thankful for all the support and service you have given to us and God’s Church. That does not change simply because you are no longer in the role of an elder, but that of an associate elder. You are in God’s ministry and yet have much before you concerning service you can render to the Church. So again, thank you!

We continue to move forward together as a family. As there is still so much that is before us as a Church, and for Laura and myself, we need and are requesting your continued prayers and support for us and the Body of Christ.

The list left in the comments had 123 names of elders on it.  From that list, the Ministry page was created, linked at the top banner of the blog.

Of that list, 12 were demoted and 16 defrocked for a total of 28 names.  As Weinland mentioned 40, there are a dozen names which are yet to come out.

The following Senior Elders demoted to Elder: Jimmy Carlisle, Angela Hopkins, Lori Williams.  Jimmy was one of the first promoted to Senior Elder back in 2008 when Ron created the rank.  I understand that Lori is a childhood friend of Laura.  Angela Hopkins was formerly Angela Wrozek before divorcing Terry earlier in the year.

The following Elders demoted to Associate Elder: Tim Tiernan, Sandy Bays, Tim Brown, Sandy Czech, Curtis    Fields, Susan Illitch, Mark and Kalee Wiesman, Ken Zitt.  All of these are long-time members, from well before the first time the Great Tribulation didn’t start in 2008.

The following Elders removed completely: George Black, Gayle Blair, Maggie Carlisle, Bill Carr, Newt Carter, Engelien Henderson, Fredda Maeker, Sam Qualls, Karen Rode.  Fredda is a long-time member, going back to the 80’s and from West Texas was a member of one of the WCG congregations to which Ron was assigned when he was first hired.

The following Associate Elders were removed completely: Cookie Fields, Brandi Light-Siedentopf, Bob Madison, Kim Oaklund, Gerald Prutsman, Keith Prutsman, Beverly VanNorman.

 

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81 thoughts on “Chopping Block

  1. Blessing in disguise . Ron cannot help but destroy himself with everything he says and does. It is just a matter of Time .

    19And it come to pass, when he hears the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of my heart, to add drunkenness to thirst: 20The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie on him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven

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  2. The LORD shall send on you cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that you set your hand to for to do, until you be destroyed, and until you perish quickly; because of the wickedness of your doings, whereby you have forsaken me.

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  3. Yes. Demoted. How long will it take you to figure out you weren’t all that much in the first place.

    It’s impossible to be competent in a dysfunctional environment.

    Take the ego hit, get over it and leave: It’s the only way you can live up to your potential and thumb your nose at the insane lying false prophet convicted felon.

    And you’re following him?

    Get a clue.

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  4. For the ones that are ill or elderly there will be an obvious explanation, but the others may look guilty of something. Their only guilt may be that they’re not ass kissers.

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  5. There really is no excuse for anyone at this point after all that has happened. I was completely ensnared by this man years ago. It was all the signs and Wonders that took my eye off the ball. Ronald continues with those signs and wonders till this day. May 27 2012 was a wake up call, but even after that, it took time .The only way is to open your bible and seek God in Faith. Right now you are just following a man and a False prophet many times over! More than that your following a Man who blasphemes Gods Name by perverting his Law. He is nothing but an idol that you helped create. Open your eyes and Smash that Idol ! Now is the time to wake up and seek your God till he come and rain Righteousness upon you. You cannot reconcile what Ron has done with Scripture. Scripture is there for Correction and Instruction in Righteousness 2Timothy 3:16 . You have put an Idol in front of Gods word and you will suffer till that idol is put away.

    Ezekiel 11:21
    But as for those whose hearts are devoted to their vile images and detestable idols, I will bring down on their own heads what they have done, declares the Lord

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  6. People think idols are made of wood or stone, but an idol is anything that you put before God. Taking Ron’s word for everything is making an idol of him. PKG ask yourself , are you able to voice a concern, have a different opinion, read material of your choice? The answer is NO! Ron is AFRAID of these things! He knows he will be proven false if anyone is allowed to ask questions. He has told you emphatically NOT to ask questions or discuss something after he has made a ruling. Why is he afraid? Because he has no real foundation to MUCH of what he preaches! Have faith in God , be brave and look into Ron.

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  7. “and for Laura and myself, we need and are requesting………….”

    This statement Ron made just really seems to jump out for some reason. Maybe because it is all about them? These few words really sums it up well.

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  8. Agree. The worst part is the people are never able to bring forth Fruit And realize their full potential because they are under a Babylonian Government . Ron is the Papa! And everyone is expected to kiss the Ring ! It is not at all the Government of Christ. Colossians 1:15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

    But Ron just loves to have the Preeminence , just as Diotrephes in 3 John 1:9, John himself said not to be like this evil man, that’s the same John that Ron claims to be a counterpart ! I mean the hypocrisy never ends ! Yes ! All about Them, they just love to have people worshiping at their feet .

    When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

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  9. Ron is the Papa!

    Ron is more the Don; Ron the Don — has a ring to it, doesn’t it.

    Yes, kissing the ring also happens in the Mafia, I understand.

    Weinland, the Godfather.

    And of course, just like other Mafia Dons, Weinland couldn’t be prosecuted for his crimes, so the IRS got him on Income Tax Evasion.

    The Weinland Don Corleone crime family: Prosecuted, not persecuted.

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  10. There are very few people whom I feel would experience tangible benefits from that downward spiral skid greaser known as medical marijuana. However, it probably would do wonders for the Weinland family. They’d be the notable exception.

    BB

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  11. Ezekiel 14
    7For every one of the house of Israel or of the Stranger that sojournes In Israel , Which separates himself from me, and sets up his idols in his heart, and puts the stumbling block of his iniquity before his face, and comes to a prophet to inquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself: 8And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the middle of my people; and you shall know that I am the LORD.

    There you have it PKG , You cannot ride into the Kingdom on the coattails of anyone , Including False prophets !!!!! False prophets will be destroyed for their sin.
    Ronald , you should fear and Repent
    9And if the prophet be deceived when he has spoken a thing, I THE LORD HAVE DECEIVED THAT PROPHET , and I will stretch out my hand on him, and will destroy him from the middle of my people Israel. 10And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeks to him

    Why you might ask would God do that ? Because you transgress his LAW !
    2 Thessalonians 2 They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
    Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears on them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they DID EVIL before my eyes, AND CHOSE. That in which I delighted not.

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  12. PKG, It is Pride that blinds you to these things . There is NO excuse. You are Ignorant of The word of God, but as for Ron’s Word , you can’t wait to hear his Vanity .

    Let me remind you of Ron’s Word

    And again

    Again

    And on an on it Goes

    [audio src="http://www.cog-pkg.org/audio/download/interviews/2012-01-11_WCEM_Interview.mp3" /]
    Listen to what Ronald says from the 36 minute mark on
    That was about 5 months before May 27 2012

    Ezekiel 13:7
    7Have you not seen a vain vision, and have you not spoken a lying divination, whereas you say, The LORD said it; albeit I have not spoken?

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  13. Now matter how many times I listen to his past speeches, it’s astonishing.

    Ronald is one of the most brazen liars and confidence artists I have ever met.

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  14. Isaiah 9:16
    For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.

    Ezekiel 7:15
    Outside is the sword; inside are plague and famine.

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  15. “Pope Francis condemned priests and laity who turn their parishes into a “business” by charging for things such as baptisms, blessings and Mass intentions – calling it a scandal that’s hard to forgive.”

    “But there are two things that the people of God cannot forgive: a priest attached to money and a priest who mistreats people. This they cannot forgive! It is scandalous…”

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-turning-churches-into-businesses-is-a-scandal-33377/

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  16. ugh so tired of this ancient fossil spewing nonsense God willing those men,woman,old,young,poor,and rich are all free all at once and infront of his eyes his only thought would be “oh no, my money is escaping”

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  17. Hilarious.

    The Catholic Church, allegedly the great satan, has gotten more cleanup from Pope Francis than any of the “Only True Church” cults I’ve seen or experienced.

    Ronald is “cleansing the temple” by selecting his most reliable hirelings and dupes while smirking at everybody.

    Francis is “cleansing the temple” by, uh, actually dealing with the corruption.

    Being showed up by the one church you allege to be most satanic in the earth, has got to be embarassing 🙂

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  18. It is going to happen , it is a promise from God to all these false leaders , In his time , he will crush the Idols .

    Isaiah 33
    1Woe to you that spoil, and you were not spoiled; and deal treacherously, and they dealt not treacherously with you! when you shall cease to spoil, you shall be spoiled; and when you shall make an end to deal treacherously, they shall deal treacherously with you.

    14The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness has surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

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  19. Raise the banner , Blow the horn ! all the Mighty Dignitaries are coming to Town ! The Prince and the Princess are coming! Roll out the Purple and Scarlet carpet ! Let all the congregation bow down and PAY Homage . Everyone hold their tongue at the presence of the newly formed prophet and Germany’s fearless leader . The great and mighty Wayne is here too ! Bow down to the ambassadors from Australia.
    Put a smile on your face PKG and Drink your wine and forget ALL your troubles for a while .

    Proverbs 31
    Give strong drink to the one who is perishing,
    and wine to those in bitter distress;
    let them drink and forget their POVERTY
    and remember their misery no more.

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  20. *NOTE: A few of you have been asking where I am. Really busy is the answer. Everything is fine, the family is thriving, and I am as under-worked/overpaid as always! My daughters are thriving, my wife has expanded her cooking/life skills school, and unfortunately my beloved cat has died. But in her place we have a new, even fluffier future Queen to patrol the house, a Persian kitten. All my toys are gone, having been sold off to keep on adding to the orphanage we built and sponsor, so my wife is trying to get me to replace my Sunday rides and drives with yoga and Tai Chi and health stuff, which I hate. I just want to lay around and watch movies with the cat -who likes to comb through my beard looking any potential leftovers. And yes, I am still as much of an atheist as before and she is still a devout (religious) Zen Buddhist!

    Now, as for Ron…

    LOL! All these elders that were ordained because “GOD” was absolutely for sure going to bring millions of people to Weinfraud’s church to be baptized are now getting canned because God LIED and changed his mind. Remember… Ron himself said all this that “GOD” is doing now, thinning the herd, COULD NOT “NOT” HAPPEN, could NOT be stopped… he said it was going to happen and not even GOD HIMSELF…literally could change it, as it was “Prophecy” or His Will!!

    And once again, Ronald Weinland is swelling the ranks of my fellow atheists by preaching a GOD only an idiot would be scared of. I feel sorry for all you Christians out there. He has taken the God of the Bible and turned Him from a Universal Force to an 4 billion year old man with dementia. Long gone is the Abrahamic God that would not be defied… Ron has replaced Him with ” Huh? Did I say that? I don’t remember… wait! What years is this? How come the sky is blue? I love pancakes!!”

    Ahhh…the COG-PKG… where Ron is a criminal, GOD changes His unchangeable mind, Jesus Christ can’t figure out what He is doing… and Audra is a PROPHET!!

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  21. Hi Randy! Hello all! I’m still here – but don’t visit here often anymore. I’ve started back working 3 days a week, until Xmas anyway.

    All well here, Corey will be 3 in Feb – such a delight!

    Lots of love to you all!

    Hope all my American friends had a lovely thanksgiving 🙂

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