Power, Signs, and Lying Wonders

Recently I  received a file which appears to have been distributed to the PKG membership.  It is a chart that attempts to show Ron’s latest timeline nonsense, but is full of inconsistencies within itself and shows a lack of understanding of Ron’s statements (to the extent that Ron’s statements are understandable).  Below is a copy of the chart which I have annotated with the red and yellow graphics to show most of these errors.  With all the errors, it’s rather busy.

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One thing the chart points out is that Laura’s birthday (on the Roman calendar) is the same day that Ron is scheduled to be released from prison.  I was able to verify both of these event occur next February 17.  Perhaps Ron will explain in a future blog post the prophetic significance of that coincidence.

From Ron’s blog post “Measuring the Temple PT 2“:

1) From the Apostasy on December 17, 1994, the man of sin, the son of perdition, Joseph W. Tkach, Sr., died exactly “280 days” after he initiated it – to the hour – which signified “God’s Judgment” upon him.

This is shown correctly on the chart.  However, the “to the hour” claim has previously been disproved.  Yet PKG still puts that lie out.

2) From the Apostasy up to Pentecost of 1998, the first prophetic cycle of 1260 days was fulfilled.

Counting 1260 days from Dec 17, 1994 is 5/30/1998.  That date is shown correctly on the chart. However, Pentecost of 1998 was on May 31, not May 30 as labeled on the chart.

3) From the Apostasy up to Pentecost 2012 there are 6,370 days. This consists of three prophetic numerical combinations of 7 x 70 x 13.

Counting 6370 days from Dec 17, 1994 is 5/26/2012.  Yet if you look at the chart, it has day 6370 on 5/27/2012.  How did that happen?

4) The final period for the completion of the sealing of the 144,000 was from Trumpets of 2008 (Sept. 30) to Pentecost of 2012 (May 27).

This part is about the only part that’s consistent on the chart.

5) The first phase of God’s work following the Apostasy covers 6,370 days, which includes a total of five equivalent periods of 1260 days that equals 6,300 days, with a remainder of 70 days.

The chart maker shows this 70-day period as 10/6/2008 through 12/14/2008.  However, the chart maker puts 10/5/2008 off on its own, not part of any 1260-day or 70-day period.  This may have something to do with the confusion.

6) Beginning with Pentecost 2012, the combined period of 42 months along with the final seventh cycle of 1260 days ends during the Days of Unleavened Bread in 2019. Not only that, but more importantly, it ends on the day of the “wave-sheaf offering” from when the count for Pentecost begins.

“Beginning with Pentecost of 2012” would put day 1 of the 6th cycle or period on 5/27/2012, and day 1260 of the 6th period on 11/7/2015.  The 7th period would begin on 11/8/2015 and end on 4/20/2019.  But the wave sheaf offering is on 4/21/2019.

7) The time from Pentecost 2012 to the wave-sheaf offering in 2019 is 2,520 days (1260 plus 1260). There are 2,570 days from Pentecost 2012 to the Day of Pentecost in 2019. This leaves exactly “50 days” that God has established as a final numerical sign of His work to establish His Son as King of kings.

The first sentence of this statement is actually correct: from 5/27/2012 to 4/21/2019 is 2520 days.  However, the second statement is incorrect: from 5/27/2012 to 6/9/2019 is 2569 days.  From the day before Pentecost of 2012 to Pentecost of 2019 is 2570 days.  Ron got shifted by a day.

From Ron’s blog post “Year of Dedication“:

The last year of the “sixth period” of 1,260 days in the measuring of the temple begins on the 6th of November 2014, and it will end on the 7th of November 2015. Then, on the following day, the “seventh period” and the primary work of God’s two witnesses will begin.

First you have to wonder how Ron came up with a year that’s a year and two days long on the Roman calendar.  But the calendar is pretty flexible for Ron.

The chart has the 6th period ending on November 8, not on November 7.  And has the seventh period beginning on November 9, 2015 instead of November 8.    However the count of 1260 for 4/20/2019 is consistent with day 1 being November 8.  How did that happen?

God also revealed that the Seventh Seal of Revelation was opened on November 14th of 2008 and that 30 days later, the First Trumpet sounded (Dec. 14, 2008), and “God’s final witness” began.

One quick check that can be done on the chart is to see what the what days of the week the starting and ending days of each period are.  The starting day should always be a Sunday, and the ending day should be a Saturday (except for the last 50-day period).  Periods of length 70 days and 1260 days are evenly divisible by 7 and are therefore a multiple number of weeks.  If your computer is Windows, then you have handy a calendar covering all these dates.  Just click on the date on the right side of the lower bar and navigate the calendar as though you were going to to change the computer’s time setting.

The chart appears to have been generated as a spreadsheet in Microsoft Excel.  I believe it quite probable that Ron has gone overtime using that program over the years.  Excel has a feature that will calculate the number of days between any two dates.  It can also be used to take a starting date and calculate a date a given number of days away.  I think Ron has put together most of his timelines using Excel.

However, I doubt that Ron is the one who put the chart together.  The Bureau of Prisons probably does not provide a computer with expensive Microsoft Office software to its inmates.  The chart was probably put together by one of his minions, my likely candidate is Wayne Matthews. Another suspect is Audra. But then maybe Ron did put it together — during the time between his sentencing and reporting to prison while wearing the GPS ankle bracelet of humility.

I also know how to use Microsoft Excel to calculate dates.  I am not motivated to use this tool to come up with signs and lying wonders like Ron does, but I can use it to check things out.  Here is an image of the spreadsheet I generated from Ron’s nonsense, to the extent that it can be understood.  The day counts are generated by Excel formulas that calculate the number of days between the date to the left of the cell and the date preceding the block which is outline with the darker border.  For example the count of 1260 for 5/30/1998 is calculated by the number of days from 12/17/1994 to 5/30/1998.  I used it to stack up periods of 70, 1260, and 50 days following 12/17/1994.

chart_regenIt shows that there are indeed seven 1260-day periods with an extra 70 days and 50 days from “the apostasy” to Pentecost of 2019.

While it is possible to make honest errors when putting an Excel spreadsheet together and I think our unknown chart maker made quite a few, I also suspect some deliberate adjustments in the formulas given the counts that would shift by a day in the middle of different periods.

The best that can be made of this is that the chart maker did make honest errors.  But the chart maker is a bumbling incompetent trying to make a chart from Ron’s poor explanations.  For a timeline based on speculation in the first place.

Power, signs, and lying wonders.  While God is not the author of confusion, Ron and his minions are.  I wonder if the chart confused any PKG members enough to get them to leave.

I challenge anyone to find a Biblical basis for these timelines. Ron’s blog post “Measuring the Temple PT 2” that outlined these timelines had no scriptural reference.  Where is it stated in the Bible that these date relationships prove that Christ is going to return?  Sad that so many are destroying their futures following those who are at best incompetent speculators.

Power, signs, and lying wonders.

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194 thoughts on “Power, Signs, and Lying Wonders

  1. Children are cursed to death and widows must risk financial ruin the Weinlands can buy BMWs and diamonds…

    …Satan loves the Weinlands most over all his demonic servants….

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  2. Helping Others,

    Sadly, the COGs have a miserable record when it comes to charity work. A guy I know in one offshoot once suggested making a donation of canned goods to a local food bank. They said they needed to study the idea. Needless to say, it was never done. Charity is seen as a Protestant thing. I never saw anyone, even inside the church, get help when it was desperately needed. All the tithes have to go to “the work”.

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  3. This con artist has a website and P.O box for a church yet SPENT… I repeat SPENT… 4 MILLION DOLLARS on BMWs, art, diamonds, luxury cruises, Vegas luxury hotels, dinners, PLUS living expenses for his kids so they didn’t have to work hard like the rest of us. AND he stole money from the government. How’s that for “The Work”… ? Ronald Weinland’s ‘Work’ is theft, lies, crime, lust, greed, covetousness, and everything that is the OPPOSITE of the ‘Fruits Of The Spirit.’ He cursed our CHILDREN to DEATH… that is his work… saying children should die so he can look righteous…

    Ronald Weinland is a human toilet.

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  4. Is it not “the work” of decent loving people to help others in need, why can’t the people in this group see that, it is amazing that educated people are so brainwashed that they let two people, Ron and Laura run their lives to such an extent. They should remember the phrases ” a friend in need is indeed a friend, and it is better to give than receive” but I guess Ron and Laura have been giving it oh I mean sticking it to people for a long time, so they must be used to it. How prideful these people are to think they are chosen when they could careless about others.

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  5. Helping Others,

    As I have stated: “… The arrogance and absolute lack of regard for the ruination of innocent lives for their selfish greed is appalling to me …”

    I ask the same question, “… what will it take for the membership to see these charlatans for what they are …”

    Hopefully and I mean hopefully Nov 8th 2015 will be the tipping point to bring the weinlands to their END!!!!

    Consider this, as the tithes begin to fall off, watch and see what they will start demanding of the membership. It will only be “charity” for the wienlands ONLY!!!!!

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  6. “Hopefully and I mean hopefully Nov 8th 2015 will be the tipping point to bring the weinlands to their END!!!! ”

    Keep in mind that Peter was imprisoned, but God sent an angel to release him from prison so that he could do the work.

    Since Ronald Weinland claims to be the greatest prophet of all time, we can assume God will do the same for him.

    Ron can not use the excuse “well I’m in prison….so I have to wait till I get out….blah…blah…blah”

    Unless he’s a false prophet, in that case, he’s going to stay in prison till next year.

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  7. Is there any chance that Ron has a chance to be released from prison early, before Nov. 8th and he knows of it, so he is not worried about where he’ll be then, I am sure he would spin it as he was released to do his “work”, and his people would be even more brainwashed by this less than a man

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  8. Helping Others:

    That is a possibility. “If” it were to happen it would be related to his health, otherwise, he will not be released until mid February 2016. You are absolutely right about the false prophet spinning it to his advantage.

    Where the false prophet weinland ensnared himself was the date of Pentecost occurring in 2019. This false prophet weinland “checkmated” himself on the Nov 8th 2015 date. He had no choice but to “spin” the Nov 2015 date. “If” the false prophet weinland used Pentecost of 2020 he could have covered all of his bases. He screwed up the dates just like he did with the taxes he did not pay to the government for five years. This false prophet “almost” got away with it but messed up on declared income and suspicious activity at the bank. It was my understanding that the bank notified the IRS of the suspicious activity.

    Tick Tock Tick Tock to crash and burn false prophet weinland Nov 2015

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  9. That is a very good point, Helping others. Most do get released early for “good behavior”. They get so many hour / days cut off the sentence, for the number of days served.

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    1. Ron’s scheduled release date next February assumes the maximum legal allowable sentence reduction for good behavior.

      I suspect that if Ron’s health issues could get him out any earlier, he would be doing too poorly to travel and prophesie.

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  10. Since the web site traffic to Ron’s site is so low as to not be registrable, I wonder if that means that PKG members interest is waning?

    (I believe what littler traffic he’s getting is mostly composed of PKG members, but even that seems to be diminishing)

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  11. The pope is still the man
    No ports blown up
    No 2/3 of veggie destroy
    Christ has not returned when Ron said anytime
    Mike our no one else has died even though they are old ( sorry mike ) he said you would die 10 years ago you still dancing the night a way ?
    Ron is in Fedral prison for prosicution not persacution !
    They spent 3.5 million on personal use !
    The only $500 message is from bubba

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  12. Can Ron get out early? It’s entirely possible–if he signs the home confinement paperwork. Basically, it would pretty much be like being locked up at home. He’d have to wear an ankle bracelet and stay within so many feet of a monitoring station hooked up to a plain old telephone line. (No call waiting, no three way, no portable handsets.) There’d be other restrictions as well. This does happen–obnoxious young earth creationist and fellow tax cheat Kent Hovind got out last week on home confinement. His actual probation starts on August 11.

    So yes, this is entirely possible!

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    1. Here’s an article on the federal law for sentence reduction for good behavior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_conduct_time

      Do you have any reliable sources for your claim that he could get out earlier on home confinement?

      Here’s what the Bureau of Prisons website has for Ron:

      RONALD E WEINLAND
      Register Number: 15344-032
      Age: 66
      Race: White
      Sex: Male
      Located at: Terre Haute FCI
      Release Date: 02/17/2016

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  13. I actually think him getting out early would be worse for him.

    That is because he really will be without an excuse, being locked in prison till next year will at least give him some excuse.

    If he gets out, and he does nothing and nothing happens would be worse for him.

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  14. FreeatLast, drop Mike a line for my email addy……I want to make sure we’re talking about the same person. I think I may know whom you’re talking about.

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  15. Mike:

    Interesting read. BUT, will this false prophet weinland be willing to give up 25% of the monthly tithes his false church receives? The false prophetess may not agree to the loss income and not agree to the release.

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  16. 10% of the original 42 months? That would compute back from his original release date or the date with good behavior I wonder, or 4.2 months back from Feb. 17th, that would get him out in October of this year.

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    1. My calculation as well, putting him on home confinement when he again becomes the Spokesman Witness. Guess he can “witness” by writing blog posts and streaming over the internet

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  17. With Ron’s health issues I could see the feds letting him out so the medical bills are on Ron and Laura, oh I mean the tithing members of the church after all it’s their hard earned money, so it would be on them, after all that’s what the tithes are for Ron and Laura to do what they seem fit with them.

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  18. I find it interesting that this blog is already aware of this possibility. No doubt the false prophet weinland has already prepared a new “spin” for this home release.

    The coming post will be interesting and I wonder if anything will be said about the possibility of the home confinement?

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  19. I don’t think he’ll mention it until its fact, then god all mighty set him free to do his work, it will be interesting for sure

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  20. Hey asshole
    My potatoes got to much rain this spring ( but everything else is fine) I won’t need my cloth sacks to put them in , I’m such a nice guy I will send them with mom to give to you since your so humble , you can sell your $1700 suits and the money whore can sell all jewelry oh I forgot you wear prison strips , Hahahahaha

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  21. If Ron is released early on home confinement, it won’t impair his ability to do his false prophet thing. He’ll just say that computers, satellites, and the internet are what make it possible for the Two Witnesses to be in Jerusalem without physically being there. He can preach to all the world without leaving his basement. Wonder if he’ll use the “Wayne’s World” theme song? Prophecy time! Excellent!

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  22. Fedup:

    I almost get the impression that this false prophet weinland is like a timex watch: “it just keeps on ticking”.

    The only thing that needs to be known is that the membership will be paying the 25% monthly fee for the home confinement. By the way, isn’t there a substantial fine that this false prophet weinland has to paid at the end of his prison term? The membership will have to pony up on this one too!

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  23. Is it legal to use tithes from a church or nonprofit to pay a person’s penalty for tax fraud or evasion? And if the money is donated to him directly, wouldn’t he have to claim it on his taxes?

    Somebody enlighten me on this.

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  24. Not sure but I would have to think it would not be a legit church expense, he would have to pull it out of his own pocket, which only means he would have to claim the amount as personal income

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    1. Any such assessment would be on his personal income, not the gross income of the church. I imagine he would take a salary reduction for the duration.

      Also he would technically not be released early. He would technically be in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons, serving the remainder of his confinement at home.

      But I expect he will spin it as God’s intervention to get him out of prison early so he can be a Witness.

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  25. Maybe we should see to it that the members of this church know that it is not that uncommon for prisoners to be released this way so Ron cant make a big deal of it, also we should put the date of his release out there so he cant spin as gods will, maybe then it would be tougher for him to get “special offerings” from the brainwashed people of this cult

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  26. Helping Others:

    There are some of pkg that do visit this site for information. By having this information openly discussed will be beneficial to them. I am of the opinion that “if” they understand what they are paying for it may be just the “push” they need to get out of this false prophet weinland’s false church.

    Tick Tock Tick Tock to Nov 2015 crash and burn false false prophet weinland

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  27. I just reviewed the sentence order and this is the following:

    1) three years of supervised release “after serving jail time” –

    2) $500 special assessment and a $7,500 fine “due immediately” –

    3) restitution to the IRS $245,176.00 – I wonder if this has been paid?

    Thank you very much tithers of pkg!

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  28. Mike, for basic information about home confinement, i’d direct you to the following document:

    http://www.bop.gov/resources/pdfs/legal_guide.pdf and go to page 42.

    For a more into the weeds look at home confinement, you can read the Bureau of Prisons program statement on the subject:

    http://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/7320_001.pdf

    “Ordinarily, the length of placement ordinarily is limited to the
    last 10 percent of the inmate’s term to be served, or six months,
    whichever is less.”

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    1. Thanks for the info Mirele. I was able to find one of your links on my own. Will be looking it over.

      In the meantime, Ron has a new posting up which is reposted on this blog for your comments.

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