PATN, Chapter 2 Part 1: A Deceived World

Latest excerpt from Ron’s book, in which he gives a science lesson.

It is not reposted here, for details please see the following post:


93 thoughts on “PATN, Chapter 2 Part 1: A Deceived World

  1. Fooled No More:

    Now, this false prophet wienland does not want you talking about this because it makes him look bad. I can attest that of the ones I know who have left this false prophet weinland’s group are doing very well and enjoying life. It just goes to shows that this false prophet weinland isn’t sanctioned by God in any way!

    I find it interesting that this false prophet weinland is in decline and that there is “no growth” in his organization. The question becomes: why isn’t God blessing this false prophet’s weinland group? The reason why is that God does not recognize this false prophet wienland at all (deut 18:22)!!

    It appears to me that the “turmoil” is plaguing this false prophet wienland! The evidence is: decline in membership, imprisonment, failed predictions, shrinking income, provable history of being a liar and cheat, and becoming a laughing stock among the christian groups!! I would say this speaks for itself.

    It is now one month pass your coronation date false prophet weinalnd!! WHERE ARE YOU FALSE PROPHET WEINLAND!!??


  2. Also, with the amount of information on the internet about this false prophet weinland is plenteous!! This false prophet weinland will have to attempt to overcome this information and this will be a full time endeavor!! There will be no time to condemn the world and “administer” the tribulation because this false prophet weinland’s smelly fruits are visible to all!!!!

    I can say this with confidence, this false prophet wienland “does not” have the intestinal fortitude to face the criticism from the public!! Also, can you imagine the “silent” false witness attempting to confront the public!!! Wait a minute! What about the false prophetess over Europe!!?? False prophetess audra correcting the world – how ridiculous this is!!!!

    Come Forth false prophet wienland and face the judgement you deserve!!!!!


  3. The sad thing about Ronald and all his friends from College is 99% of them have ran with the False prophecy of HWA and continue to never learn a single thing . Notice how they are all stuck in the 40s and 50s , they have Absolutly NO understanding ! Some people may say this is a bold statement , but to see the Truth you have to first come out of the lies.

    When I listened to HWA the first time , I was amazed ! It was new and exciting , i thought to myself here is a man that was actually following the bible . But I had to learn some hard lessons in time shortly after that. The #1 thing that I thought was most amazing from this man was ” The Key of David” this is really what the foundation is for WWCOG . HWA thought he understood who the lost tribes of Israel were in modern day , therefore letting him understand prophecy of what is to come in the end time . This has led to Ronald Weinland believing he is a prophet and that he has something to offer . Sadly for all of this great spiritual Wisdom , it turned out to be just a lot of Fleshly misunderstanding . If they stopped for two minutes declaring themselves prophets and actually listen to the real prophets they would have a better understanding .

    “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil”

    All prophecy is written already .
    There is not one thing that a man today is going to bring out that is NEW. Ron should have learned this , but he is not strong enough to repent of his error. 2 Peter 1 20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.


  4. Never heard Ron speak, but I imagine his sermons were probably very similar to these posts he makes. I for one can’t imagine sitting through one of his sermons week after week. Mind-numbing drivel.


  5. Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure.

    Did you catch that ? Ronald Weinland and all his buds believe America and great Britan and the countries of western Europe are Israel ! They believe that a phisical captivity of these nations will happen in ” The Great Tribulation ” but that is not what it is about .

    The real prophecy is about a spiritual captivity . A spiritual return to Egypt .

    13They sacrifice flesh for the sacrifices of my offerings, and eat it; but the LORD accepts them not; now will he remember their iniquity, and visit their sins: they shall return to Egypt.
    14For Israel has forgotten his Maker, and builds temples; and Judah has multiplied fenced cities: but I will send a fire on his cities, and it shall devour the palaces thereof.

    Judah in prophecy is not talking about the Jews but it is talking about the Church . Israel is scattered and mixed in all the gentile nations.
    3They shall not dwell in the LORD’s land; but Ephraim shall return to Egypt, and they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.
    this is a true prophecy for today from Hosea. My hope is that people will start to break away from the False ideas of HWA and understand what is really happening .
    Ephraim feeds on wind, and follows after the east wind(Doctrine , eastern religion mysticism ) : he daily increases lies and desolation; and they do make a covenant with the Assyrians, and ( oil (luke 12:35) is carried into Egypt.
    Here is an example of how this prophecy has come to pass in our day , one of the best examples I could find , my intention is for people to see what HAS happened and the difference between A true prophecy and and the misunderstandings of HWA and Ronald Weinland.

    Ephraim, as I saw Tyrus, is planted in a pleasant place: but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.


  6. three weeks ago Ron went in to the hospital for a heart catheterization and they were going to insert a couple of stents if they were needed and if they could do so. They were not able to give him any stents once they did the catheterization though. One artery that is completely blocked could not be opened and it would take a different procedure to fix it, which would likely require a bypass. The doctor said that the other artery already had developed its own bypass to the heart. He said that since the catheterization he simply does not have any more burning or occasional pain that he had been experiencing from time to time before the heart catheterization was given.

    In addition, he had been having a lot of pain, difficulty, and discomfort with one knee for about the past nine months, but at the same time as the catheterization, the pain and weakness that he had been experiencing simply disappeared. He did state that on occasion he does get a very slight discomfort from it, but overall it has simply gone away. He wanted to thank everyone for their concern and prayers, as certainly he has been blessed by God through all this.


  7. Ron being held together with spit and gum, does not sound like he has been given power or anything. At this point, Ron simply does not have the health to go gallivanting around the globe on anybody’s dime. Laura is too lazy to speak, preach, or even visit the leaders of this world to give a witness. No these two never were, never are, and never will be the Two Witnesses.


  8. How is having debilitating health problems a blessing from God?

    Isn’t this guy supposed to be correcting the world? To do that requires robust health I would think.


  9. Thank you for sharing “happytobogone”. I hope to hear more from you on this site. Thanks!

    I do have some issues with the content of this email from this false prophet weinland. Here are some facts to consider:

    1) The weinlands are notorious liars?
    2) Is there credible support that he actually had a heart attack?

    Question: How do we know this is not all staged? Many religious groups boast about “miraculous healing” in order to attract new members. This false prophet wienland would set up this same scenario to bolster this false prophet weinland’s failing enterprise. This false prophet weinland is a deceiving liar and will stoop to any tactic to survive – he has proven this over and over.

    I do not trust any words that proceed from this false prophet weinland’s mouth!! He is a provable liar and has been lying and deceiving for many years!!

    The other side of this is “if” it is true, then, this false prophet weinland’s heart is in bad shape! There is no way this false prophet weinland would be able handle all of the stress with traveling and “administering” the tribulation!! Keep this in mind, this false prophet weinland has had a vacation from his gossiping wife and soon now this false prophet weinland will be thrown back under her domineering mouth!! In my opinion, this is what he deserves.

    Remember this false prophet weinland is an arrogant deceiving liar and will stoop to any tactic to save himself only!!!!

    Thanks again happytobegone for the sharing.


  10. “According to Hosea 12:1: “Ephraim . . . followeth after the east wind.” An “east wind” travels west. Ephraim must have gone west from Assyria. When the Eternal swore to David that He would perpetuate his throne, He said: “I will set his hand [sceptre] also in the sea” (Ps. 89:25). The throne is to be “set,” planted, “in the sea.”Herbert W Armstrong
    United States & Britain in Prophecy

    HWA did not understand . He used the quote from Hosea to make a case for travel and that is not AT ALL what is being spoken of in the context .

    ” Manasseh was in fact a thirteenth tribe. There were twelve original tribes. Joseph was one of these twelve. But when Joseph divided into two tribes and Manasseh separated into an independent nation, it became a thirteenth tribe. HWA US&B in prophecy

    Not so !
    Gen 48:17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s head. 18And Joseph said to his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put your right hand on his head. 19And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

    It is ephraim who would be the “thirteenth” tribe BECAUSE MANASSEH WAS THE FIRSTBORN .

    Seed a multitude of nations = what will come to pass at the return of Jesus Christ.
    Gen 49:22Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: 23The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

    24But his bow stayed in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from there is THE SHEPHERD the stone of Israel:)

    Hosea 10:8The watchman of Ephraim was with my God: but the prophet is a snare of a fowler in all his ways, and hatred in the house of his God.

    Jeremiah 31
    4Again I will build you, and you shall be built, O virgin of Israel: you shall again be adorned with your tabrets, and shall go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
    7For thus said the LORD; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish you, praise you, and say, O LORD, save your people, the remnant of Israel.

    9They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and EPHRAIM IS MY FIRSTBORN.

    HWA did not understand . Ronald Weinland does not understand ! Stop following man ! Look to God.


  11. Neither Ronald Weinland the thief, nor Laura Weinland the gossip monger, can “correct” one tiny little web site, and yet we are to believe they will be administering correction to the world?

    How about this
    1) Ron needs to be corrected of his lying and thieving
    2) Laura needs to be corrected about being a lazy bum
    3) Audra needs to be correct of her leeching way, and adultery.

    The whole family should be behind bars.


  12. Just some more irony in regards to Ron. If you think about it he is just another free loading scum bag. Not only does he cheat on his taxes while he has millions at his disposal but now it is likely the tax payers are taking another hit from him funding his medical bills while he is being held in prison as a felon.

    Proof in point. Ron and family were jet setting non stop taking more elaborate and expensive vacations and gone more than they stayed in their “church” bought home in Triple Crown Country Club for years. Driving new high dollar BMW’s and buying excessive expensive jewelry non stop etc; The list goes on.

    It is amazing how Ron and Laura could afford this life of excess on basically $30,000 USD per year combined on a joint tax return after his own quick right off being a minister. Oh Yeah! They were screwing Uncle Sam for nice big tax refunds too all while they had millions to blow on themselves which they did well. Audra only made $17,000 per year and also burnt the IRS for big fat tax refunds each year also. Amazing how she could afford her BMW, $140,000 condo with almost $200 per month HOA fees on top of the mortgage and all of her fancy jewelry and expensive wardrobe.

    Basically every dime that rolled into the infamous Cincinnati P.O. Box was their PERSONAL INCOME. All $4.5 million within 4 years. I say this because it was shown and proven in court. Much of this wound up in their Ron and Laura banking accounts because they would simply transfer what and when they wanted. Moving a bunch of money around and spending a bunch as quick as it came in was what got them turned into the IRS by their banks and financial institutions. The red flags went up as it looked like a money laundering scheme which in reality that was and is exactly what it was and still is although I am sure it is a bit cleaner today. How is that IRS, state and local tax scrubbed cash treating you scum bags now? Is it providing enough stress for heart problems? Must be……

    The PKG “church” account was no different for two reasons. 1). They had complete and total control of that cash(every penny of it) which no one else had access to from the “church” nor no one from the “church” knew what amounts were ever in there. Therefore, this money in reality was 100% Ron and his PIG’s cash they could spend on themselves as they saw fit. And they saw a lot of fit. 2). The “church” account paid any bill or bought them anything they wanted. Another big factor in Ron’s conviction. It was repeatedly shown and backed with proof (cancelled checks, receipts, bank statements for said account, etc;) that Ron and Laura constantly and consistently used this “church” account money to pay their PERSONAL bills, expenses, vacations, cars, home alarm systems, Star bucks, shopping sprees, fine dining, jewelry shopping, home furnishings, $1,700 suits, etc; The list goes on and on.

    Not only did the “church” account pay for all of Ron and Laura’s excessive wants and luxuries but it also funded Audra and Jeremy 100%. The entire family made a living stealing God’s tithe cash. They still do but business is bad nowadays compared to back when they were all regulars in Las vegas. Let’s be perfectly clear. The IRS knows what they are doing is utterly and completely wrong and criminal but the Fed’s hands are tied because the Weinlands have their scam incorporated as a religious organization and a 503 non profit tax exempt business. Total SCAM but as I have said the Fed’s hands are tied to a large degree.

    Now that being said they still did burn his ass and throw him in jail for being a thief to the best of their ability. I am no fan of the IRS at all as with most people. But I will give credit where it is due. And if you think about it the IRS is not responsible to tell others how to spend their money even if they are wasting it on lies and such things. I could send my hard earned cash to Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble because I know they are real cartoon characters and they need gas for their foot powered car with rock wheels. I hope you all are following me here…….. Simple math. Let me also add that the IRS could care less just like Ron and Company as long as they get their dues. If Ron and Laura had not been so greedy and simply given the iRS their cut of God’s tithe cash then nothing would have ever been done about it. Just some expensive food for thought.


  13. Another tid bit to ponder. His book of lies and Google ads were a cheap drop in the bucket and likely the only true “church” expenses other than the cheap yearly P. O. Box rental they used to screw tithers out of money. THE GOOGLE ADS WERE ANOTHER SELF SERVING FRONT TO TRY TO JUST GET EVEN MORE CASH BEAT OUT OF THE UNSUSPECTING. I can not recall what the Google Ads costs were but they were nothing in comparison to the $4.5 million the Weinlands cashed in on and squandered on themselves on mostly fun and unnecessary personal wants. A bunch of expensive material things and endless vacations, $500 massages and the likes.

    Really, who actually needs a $1,700 suit from Nordstroms for anything other than bragging rights which Ron was proud to boast about having that same suit on in court one day. What was worth the $1,700 bucks was the beat down the prosecutor gave him about it. He was wearing his “church” suit there on PERSONAL BUSINESS that day. Just another great example of how proud Ron god #3 is about scamming tithes. McBride made Ron the Con look like the complete jackass he is. That little scene wasn’t worth $1,700 bucks. It was PRICELESS! Anyone spending that type of cash on some threads is simply a moron. Looked just like a $400 suit to me. Egos are a costly thing to own. Being a jerk here but being that much of an ego maniac one would think Ron’s PERSONAL GOD CASH would have been better spent dropping $400 bucks on the suit and the applying the remaining $1,300 on some liposuction for his PIG. Just a thought trying to help the vain peeps out. IDIOT!

    In summary let’s do some quick and simple math like the Fed’s did on Ronnie Boy. Bottom line after the “church” related expenses are deducted there were still millions left the Weinscums blew on themselves at will. There can be no questions as to who benefited from this cash. We all know who benefitted. Four people with the last name of Weinland did. Technically it was three Swinelands and a Little briefly. She is still a Weinscum no matter where she was married or when or by whom that she couldn’t remember.

    Couple of problems here. There is not a bride in this world that does not remember when and where they were married. Rotten apples don’t fall far from the lying tree. Do they? Secondly, with another dose of reality how is a money laundering scam entitled to any tax right offs anyway? That’s right, Ron and Company have their SCAM disguised as that damn “church” type thing. What I am getting at here people is another simple fact. This is that what little “church” money spent for Ron and Laura’s operating costs did not represent a church nor did it benefit a church. It was money Ron and Laura spent to make their PERSONAL INCOMES. Much like the “will work for food” sign holding scammers putting gas in their cars to drive to a pan handling site. No difference. Neither wants food. They simply want YOU to give them YOUR MONEY.

    Ron and Family are nothing more than refined pan handlers taking larger amounts of YOUR MONEY. It’s brutal, but it’s the truth.


  14. “One artery that is completely blocked could not be opened and it would take a different procedure to fix it, which would likely require a bypass. ”


  15. As he loved cursing, so let it come to him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.

    You will lie you will twist you will distort and you will die.


  16. Thank you for the summary juror bags.

    What is that smell!? It is the smelly fruits of this false prophet weinland!!

    By the way, this false prophet weinland is now one (1) month passed his coronation, In nineteen days this false prophet wienland”s fifty (50) days buffer will evaporate!!!

    Where are you false prophet weinland!!??


  17. Here is a thought as to why this false prophet weinland is remaining in jail. It is understood that the 25% fee of monthly income to be paid to the state is in play and this false prophet weinland is so damn greedy that he has chosen to stay until February. BUT! there may be another reason. This false prophet has been with the “boys” at the prison for three (3) plus years. This false prophet weinland has probably enjoyed his freedom from his domineering feminist wife!!! This false prophet weinland may not be looking forward to living with the “silent” witness and having to put with her for the rest of his life!!!

    There is no doubt that his wife will immediately demand that this false prophet weinland get back to work and fix all of the damage that was done by these two. Oh poor poor false prophet weinland – life was good in prison wasn’t it!! To bad and now it is time to live with your worst nightmare – a demanding greedy wife who will “nag” you for the rest of your days. Maybe you need to commit another crime and get back to prison to gain your freedom from her!


  18. Enough , Ron has been on a 7 year “buffer” Although I would not call it a buffer , I would call it 7 years of FALSE PROPHECY .

    “In” the Final Three & One – Half Years – Ronald Weinland

    *****As regular readers/listeners are aware, on December 14, 2008, the world entered the final 3 1/2 years spoken of throughout prophecy as the end-time of man’s rule on earth.******

    ******The reality is that the Seventh Seal of Revelation was opened on November 14, 2008, and then 30 days later the First Trumpet sounded. *****


    7 years of false prophecy “7”


  19. A False Prophecy
    Oct 16 2015
    “Yet on the other hand, this book also reveals there is the potential to instead save the lives of hundreds of millions of people
    Oct 22 2015
    “That story is included in Ronald Weinland’s third book, entitled, Prophesy Against the Nations. God has made both Ronald Weinland and his wife to be His two end-time witnesses who are spoken of in Revelation 11 and in the Book of Zechariah.
    Oct 29 2015
    “For God’s end-time prophets, God reveals there will be great power that He is going to give to both of these witnesses. God has purposed for them to become directly engaged in administering much of the correction and humbling that must take place in this world, and also within the Church that was scattered, before God sends His Son to take over the governments of this world and reign over every nation. “False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    A True Prophecy
    Hosea 12:1 Ephraim feeds on wind, and follows after the east wind(Doctrine , eastern religion mysticism ) : he daily increases lies and desolation; and they do make a covenant with the Assyrians, and ( oil (luke 12:35) is carried into Egypt.

    9:13Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.
    Jeremiah 5:15 See, I will bring a nation on you from far, O house of Israel, said the LORD: it is a mighty nation, it is an ANCIENT NATION , a nation whose LANGUAGE YOU KNOW NOT , neither understand what they say. (Symbols)
    Hosea 5
    9Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.


  20. Oct 29 2015~ “For God’s end-time prophets, God reveals there will be great power that He is going to give to both of these witnesses. God has purposed for them to become directly engaged in administering much of the correction and humbling that must take place in this world, and also within the Church that was scattered, before God sends His Son to take over the governments of this world and reign over every nation. “False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    According to your own words this should have happened on November 8th of this year false prophet wienland!!! You are now thirty-one days passed your coronation and where are you!? You are still in prison!! Where are the 63,000 flocking to your organization – no where to be seen and so forth!!

    You are a true “false” prophet wienland!! All the world sees is lies, lies, lies, and more lies!! Great job false prophet wienland!!!!


  21. Rons desire is to ‘correct and humble.’ God certainly doesn’t need Ron to accomplish this , but Ron is hoping to curse more people to death for not believing in HIM.


  22. I know PKGers are waiting for something, but the bible does not say that the Great Tribulation begins at some nebulous and ambiguous point in the 1260 days. It says THEN shall be Great Tribulation, that is, at the beginning of the 1260 days, something bad will happen.

    Mat_24:21 For THEN shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

    Now, if you want to press the point, the bible does not state a certain event will happen explicitly on the 1st day of the GT. But that is getting silly. But like I said before, even though nothing explicit is stated (after all, the apostles couldn’t say that nuclear bombs were going to be dropped everywhere), the bible is explicit on what happens 30 days before the GT starts. 30 days before the GT starts armies enter Jerusalem and stop the daily sacrifice. This even is not going to be printed on the back page of a newspaper in small print. The entire world will be aware of this event. It will be “explosive” news. It will be the spark that ignites the events that will be the GT.


  23. Hey false prophet weinland, I just reviewed (again) the transcripts of your trial and “WHOA” the government had you pegged to the wall!!!! Maybe you should explain the “conspiracy” and all the details of your secret personal bank account in Switzerland that was funded with church money!!!! Man! what a conniving thief you are!!!!!

    Every now and then I review your trial transcripts just to keep in mind of what a deceiving crook you really are – Richard Nixon would have been proud of you!!!

    I have to ask this question: “is this the type of man God would choose to be a representative of Him!?”

    What is that smell!? It is the smelly fruit of this false prophet weinland!!??


  24. I hope this asshole has a massive heart attack , and dies , he wished death on Mike, and leaders of other churches, and told the PKG to pray his thunders happen and wemon, and children get killed , to bad him and the gossip bitch ( Laura ) didn’t die in the streets , but we all know they are false prophets !!!! It’s all about money and power they will rot in hell !


  25. I have no doubt that ALL of the splinter leaders wish in their hearts that those of us who attempt to hold them accountable would die or meet some horrible calamity. Exercising our Constitutionally guaranteed rights to free speech means that wishing is about all they can do. I would imagine that their attorneys have spent many hours trying to develop strategies to suppress all of the free speech made available through the internet. They are reduced to their traditional devices, however, such as fear, bogus spiritually-based threats, and intimidation.



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