And Many False Prophets ….

It seems that something prophetic is going to happen today.  In case you’re interested, here’s someone else who likes calculating dates and drawing charts.

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But just in case we survive today, the discussion may continue here of Weinland’s failure to warn of the recent hurricanes he no doubt called down upon us.  But perhaps he was distracted by reductions in revenues, particularly if he hasn’t yet paid the taxes he owes from 9 through 14 years ago.

102 thoughts on “And Many False Prophets ….

  1. Thanks, Mike.

    Back to RW…… I love the title of his latest sermon series: “CULTivating Children”.

    Oh, the iRONy.

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  2. And now a quote from Wayne’s latest effort:

    ” Being in God’s Church, having God’s spirit there is an oppression that takes place.”

    Very naughty of me to quote out of context, but …….

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  3. Another epic fail that calls for a Harold Camping encore- this one never gets old…

    And now, the glorious sound effect of epic fail…

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  4. Mike,

    Thank you for attaching the IRS posting about the numbers.

    It is my opinion, this is what is needed to go public in a big way. Maybe you would consider doing a post on the numbers only and let all see it and digest the magnitude of what this thief was doing with the member’s money!! I shake my head in total disbelief that I fell for slimy weinland’s lies!!! It is no wonder that I now despise this lying thief!!!!

    All I can say is, what go around comes around and weinland your day of reckoning is coming on June 9, 2019!!!!

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    1. Not understanding which IRS posting you refer to.

      The Criminal Case page linked in the banner at the top of every page in the blog has court transcripts and a link to the tagged set of blog posts I made back then.

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  5. Something is wrong with this blogs appearance…

    It is all messed up, with the pages listing on right all mashed up into the center and overlaying the comments from posters….

    Does anyone else have this problem?

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  6. YIKES!!! 😮 😮 😮

    Man oh man……….WHY couldn’t I have seen/known this before I joined Weinland’s nonsense back in 2008??

    Mike, is there a way you can “pin” this story to be the top of the header in each of the blog pages? This would really open up the eyes of the curious as there’s no fudging those numbers.

    Martin, in answer to your computer/screen issue——-hold your CTRL button down on your keyboard and scroll the thumbwheel on your mouse back and forth. This will enlarge/decrease the fonts on your screen and should bring things to the way you like it. A little bit of computer geekery———-I’m on FireFox and I had to so the same thing. Only takes a second. 😉

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  7. Yes Mike that is the table I was referring to.

    By laying out the transfers of church money to slimy weinland’s personal accounts says it all!!! It definitely vindicates what this site is all about and that is exposing slimy weinland for what he is a lying thief to the tune of $4,429,364.00 stolen from the hard earned money of the membership!!! AND! it is still going on and now he wants to steal money from children by demanding them to pay a tithe on their allowance or earned money!!

    DO YOU GET THE PICTURE HERE PKGERS’!!!!!!! YOUR IDOL IS A GREEDY THIEF!!!!!

    I will tell you that slimy weinland will not and does not like this kind of information getting out on him to the public and especially on this site!!! Having this information exploding on him again at this time when he is having trouble with the enlightened ones who are now withholding their money from him is critical! I hope that they go and see for themselves this information here on this site about this lying slimy weinland who has been lying to them for a very very long time!!!

    Hey Johnny!! The pedestal you have set slimy weinland on is falling apart and your idol weinland will come crashing down to the sewer where he belongs!! Better watch out! It may fall on you good buddy!!!

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  8. If Ron wasn’t a complet moRon, he could have retired and have the easy life….

    But no, he spent tons of money like it was going out of style, I wonder how much he spent VS how much is left?

    It’s time for him to apply at some fast food place, so he can pay the bills.

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  9. Know this slimy weinland, this will never go away and it will haunt you until your last breath!! This is the nightmare that you have created for yourself!!!

    Evil deeds require a reckoning slimy weinland and now it is time for you to pay for your evil deeds. Enjoy the foul fruit that you have sown for yourself!

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  10. FNM, so that is how the cat did it. I was scrolling, reading, cat jumped up onto the keyboard, and so small print I can’t read it. So thanks times two. I can now read without help!

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  11. I wonder if wacky weinland and David Meade are old time school buddies??

    What is interesting here is that wacky weinland would have a hard time criticizing david meade on his miscalculations on dates.

    Pay attention you followers of wacko weinland your idol is just as guilty as david meade – how many times has wacky weinland changed dates!? Get Ready!! He is about to change the date again!!!!

    Hey Johnny, do you know David Meade?

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  12. GIF, cats are notorious for that! 😀

    I’ve got three of ’em and I’d kinda like to get a indoor house cam to see what they get into during the day. Gotta love ’em though…….they’re like little kids ‘cept they never grow up.

    EIE, I can almost bet you before the end of next year, Ron will be practically forced to make some kind of change or come up with some type of sermon akin to the one he did at The Feast of Tabernacles in Orlando, FL in 2011. That sermon got everyone so fired up and scared………..don’t know if the “fright” of this particular sermon will have the same effect as that one did.

    Not to mention who knows how many will be left at that point! As time marches on, and we approach New Years 2018, I can best believe more than a few (especially Elders) are questioning things more and more as they see so many things NOT HAPPENING.

    Grab some more popcorn!

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  13. “Especially elders” they are not elders because of their spiritual maturity and especially not elders because they have more Biblical undetstanding. This is most evident by the mere fact they are still there. The elders are all Biblical illiterates ordained because of their unwavering support monetarily of their galse prophet

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  14. The coward Ronald Weinland, still has not posted any information on upcoming trips.

    Isn’t he supposed to put the fear of God in them? Rather than they making Ron shake in fear?

    Ron was scared away by a COMEDIAN, at Idea City event. How is Ron supposed to face the False Prophet and Beast Leader and all the other enemies out to kill him if he ran away from a common comedian? Where is all the fire breathing he is supposed to have???

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  15. More good news about people leaving PKG as indicated by Ron September 9, 2017

    So people just continue to go by the wayside even before we get to the Feast of Tabernacles. It’s still happening. We’ve had a couple in the last month who’ve done the exact same thing.”

    In the same sermon: “God is cleaning up this Body and we should be excited about that.”

    Yes Ron, we are very excited about that but not surprised. Probably down to double digit membership now. Keep it up, not many to go now. Just keep doing the same thing, not being a prophet and having sermons about anything but the 2019 second coming. The firebrand has gone and the bus conductor is issuing wet bus tickets.

    You don’t want to promote another date and then have a fourth embarrassment, that would push even more away so keep distracting them and telling them how awesome things are and especially don’t mention 2019.

    He knows himself he is steadily loosing members, from his own lips: “Every year around that last sermon – I’m sure it’ll be on this one as well – asking everyone, “Will you be here next year?”

    No Ron many wont be. Their eyes are being slowly but steadily opened.

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  16. Ron + wife + family have been indicted or involved in…

    1) Massive tax thieves and cheats (Ron + wife)

    2) Live hedonist lifestyle (yacht trips, casino vacations, travelling and gallivanting all over the world on a widows dime)

    3) Lied on legal documents

    4) By biblical definition Audra is an adulteress.

    5) Promise breakers (Ron promised to quit)

    6) By all OBJECTIVE standards has proven to be a FALSE PROPHET (Ron in the past CONDEMNS the Ron of the present, Ron CONDEMNS HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN MOUTH)

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  17. Sermon by Wayne Mattews –> Know Your Enemy

    Wayne….the enemy is YOU….

    And the rest supporting this lying thief and false prophet Ronald Weinland.

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  18. GIF, I was wondering that exact same thing. He’s been a bit silent lately——a bit unusual for him this time of the year what with Atonement, Trumpets, and the Feast coming up.

    BUT! If he is ill, it’s just a matter of time before we find out as someone will spill the beans. While I don’t wish ill will on him, I can’t really feel sorry for him as he’s brought a lot of this on himself. As Eric said, gone is the talk of 2019 as he fully well knows that it’s going to be a non event.

    I’m about positive there are whispers in the church about the lack of events coming up, but those in COG-PKG daren’t say to Ron to his face as to WHY things haven’t transpired!

    Double digit numbers in PKG? I can certainly believe that as the room they rented at the hotel in Orlando was very telling as to how many will be there. Not to mention that from Ron’s own mouth he said that “there were many rooms still available”. That statement alone speaks volumes as I know from previous years, if you didn’t have your room reserved out months in advance, you had to look for someone to double (or triple) up with in a room.

    As I’ve mentioned before, keep bringing on the popcorn!

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  19. It would makes sense that wacky weinland is having health problem along with all the stress he is having over his GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT OF JUNE 9, 2019. Wacky weinland has finally been caught in his own snare and can’t get out of it.

    This reminds me of Captain Hook and the crocodile that has the ticking clock in his belly. Wacky weinland is Captain Hook and the crocodile is the GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT OF JUNE 9, 2019. Captain Hook (wacky weinland) feared the crocodile (great disappointment 6/9/19) because as the ticking of the clock got louder Capt. Hook (wacky weinland) would break out in a cold sweat because he knew that the crocodile was near by and its goal was to finish the job of devouring the rest of Capt. Hook!!!

    Hey wacky weinland!! Do you hear the ticking clock that is getting closer and closer!! And the cold sweat is beginning to break out!!! Yes, it is the GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT OF JUNE 9, 2019 that is coming to devour you once and for all!!! And there will be no one to save you from this crocodile TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK the crocodile is coming coming!!! You better run and hide Capt. Hook (wacky weinland) he is coming to finish you off and devour you!!!!

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  20. “… In the same sermon: “God is cleaning up this Body and we should be excited about that …” wacky weinland

    How many times have we heard this one!!! There is no growth in wacky weinland’s organization!!! There are only departures away from weinland!!!!

    Eventually there will be no one. So now the question becomes, “what body, there is none here”?

    The truth of the matter is this, you are the foul and stinking corpse in your organization!!!! What is your history? Let’s see, a convicted tax cheat (felon), served time in federal prison, multiple failed predictions, harmful damaged done to families and marriages, and the list goes on and on and on and on.

    The simply truth ~ you are a lying thief wacky weinland and now the time has come for you to pay your dues for all the harm and distress you have caused others.

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  21. LOL! EIE, I got a good laugh out of your Captain Hook analogy!

    One difference may be that the clock might be ticking…but it’s no ordinary “clock”. It’s actually a time bomb just waiting to explode on June 9, 2019!

    As we get closer and closer (it’s October 1st already!) the fear with the Weinlands will grow and grow. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if he and Laura all of a sudden leave the country (I think he can by then) just to escape the ire of all of the PKG folks that will be probably quite livid (or should be).

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  22. Eventually, the chickens will all come home to roost. For better or worse, many of the Armstrongite ministry displayed their loyalty to the Herbert W. Armstrong prophecy mold and timeline by withholding themselves from the Social Security system. This means in many cases that if they entered the ministry directly following graduation as twenty-somethings, if their ministries fail to produce at least a bare subsistance income, they are totally without resources.

    It has been speculated that Ronnie may have squirrelled away some funds in overseas accounts, but the minute he makes a move on those, the Feds are going to want what is owed to them, and the courts will want their fines. So, his only hope is to achieve a delicate balance, living in temporary limbo for as long as possible. My guess would be that he needs his health, his credibility, and all of his tithe payers in order to maintain that tenuous balance. If any part or parts of the equation fail, he’s had it. And, he’s actually living this, so he would know better than any of us how close the jig is to being up.

    BB

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  23. Interesting theory and there may be a great deal of truth there. I have been supicious of Jeremy for along time.

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  24. It’s that how Ron got caught, taking to much money at once from overseas accounts? I remember at one time he said he had funds in Germany, and with Jeremy there they were already taken care of. Is Jeremy still married. I don’t believe she attended or agreed with Ron.

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    1. How did Ron get caught? It’s described in the trial testimony of the IRS agent who investigated the case (Palmisano). You can find a transcript of her testimony linked in the Criminal Case page linked in the banner at the top of the page.

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  25. tried calling and asking if a certain member is registered at hotel and was told no — asked for second member and again no I wonder if that means they cancelled Orlando

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  26. Hmmm……. Freeatlast, I wonder if those people you mentioned are still in the church?? Could be they kicked the Weinlands to the curb too! I’m beginning to wonder if even 100 people will show up! That’s going to put a hurtin’ on the money coffers………Ron always counted on the big “offering payout”, and now there’s no one left to do much payin’ out!

    You know I’m really shedding tears over this…….(he says sarcastically). 😉

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  27. Free at last; was one of those you ased about the Dalrymples? I think they will be amongst the very last to leave if they leave at all after the next round of lies and changed dates.

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  28. If Ronald Weinland said the sky was purple, I think that most PKGers would agree with him.

    That is truly sad.

    This guy not only claims to be a prophet, but one of two, of the most powerful prophets in history that the bible prophecies about.

    The uniqueness of the Revelation prophecy, is it prophecies about the prophets themselves, that is, most prophecies don’t focus on the individuals giving the prophecy, they focus on the prophecy itself, but Revelation 11 is unique in that it says a lot about the prophets.

    Does Ron fit the prophecy in ANY SHAPE OR FORM????

    No.

    Ron has his followers believing that Ron can be the complete opposite of Rev 11, and still be one of the Two Witnesses…

    AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s like taking candy from a baby.

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  29. Ron gave a COMPLETELY FALSE (“official”) prophecy…..regarding the destruction of 1/3 of plants and 1/3 of ships etc…

    I say “official” as this was supposed to be an iron-clad prophecy from the lips of a prophet, not some “guess” or
    possible/probable forecast.

    Time showed that Ron was completely wRonG.

    Ron claims that God was mistaken, what God said about a false prophets didn’t apply to him, Ron said (in disagreement with God Himself), that he was not presumptuous.

    This guy is lucky he didn’t turn into a pile of ash.

    Ron’s followers, gave up their thinking skills, and believed Ron.

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  30. I think we all may have been thrown a curve ball by falsie ronnie I talked with a guest services person a bit ago and he said he had no knowledge of a church group staying there. Was that trip to Orlando back in August a curve ball?

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  31. okay folks, it must have been a curve ball – PKG is staying and meeting at the Doubletree at Seaworld on internation drive just confirmed

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  32. Maybe the group is so small, they the guest service person just thought it was a small meeting for a business.

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  33. If the person is a plain minister, and was trying his best to be honest with the scriptures, but taught a prophecy that was wrong, I might give that person a break. It would depend. Something like that prophecy that Harold Camping gave which made zero sense (if you read his explanation), and was a bunch of confusing nonsense, I would give less leeway.

    But if it was something that made some sense, I might consider it, and/or give him a break if he got it wrong.

    But if somebody CLAIMS to be a prophet, and gives an “official” pronouncement (ex cathedra if you will), and that prophecy is wrong, I mean, how could you not realize they were false prophets??????

    Prophets don’t have a good batting average, unless they are 100% correct, they are false.

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  34. It would have been much better in terms of all of our personal growth if we had simply been in a church movement that taught Christ-like behavior, rather than having unknowable prophecies as a sort of modern day “gnosticism” be the very cornerstone of all our lives.

    I mean, terms like King of the North, and King of the South only have relevance on a flat, Israel-centric earth when you think about it. And, most of the original ethnic groups mentioned in the Bible have ceased being independent, identifiable groups, because of invasions, migrations, and assimilation into larger groups over thousands of years. We have to remember that in Jesus’ time, Samaritans were not even considered to be Israelites. They were thought of as being a profane mongrel group, because of intermarriage with the Cuthites who were sent to colonize their land during the captivity. How much more the products of the American and European melting pots?

    BB

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  35. Another FOT sermon by Ronald Weinland has been posted…

    It’s title “God’s Temple Established”….

    To which I can only say is “Says who?” you? Ron? the tax thief and liar?

    If God’s Temple (if Ron is alluding to a spiritual temple, made of members, I

    am not sure if he is or is not) is established, how is it that members are

    still being put out or leaving????

    Here is an example where Ron quotes something and doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about, nor do the members it seems…

    Rev 22:16 “… I am the ROOT and the OFFSPRING of David, and the bright and the morning star.”

    To be the ROOT of David, Christ MUST have pre-existed, being the ROOT meant that Christ was David’s anscestor (being the creator/father of Adam).

    Christ was the “father” of Adam, and down the line from Adam to David, and thus was the ROOT of David. There are other proof of Christ’s pre-existance of course, but I like how often Ron quotes the bible, and is clueless to what is being said.

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