A Decade of Not Drinking the FlavorAid

It was exactly 10 years ago today that I made my first blog post about False Prophet Ronald Weinland over on Blogspot.  It was shortly before Ron’s first great tribulation and two weeks after his “if by Pentecost” declaration that he later reneged on.

In the 10 years since I have blogged about him continuing at Blogspot for about another year  and for about the last 9 years at this domain.  This in spite of the multiple death curses Weinland has uttered against me.  Weinland has continued to prophesy the return of Christ through multiple timelines.  I believe that unless he is disabled or expires perhaps due to a third heart attack he will continue with more timelines after this. Ron is the Energizer Bunny of false prophecy.

This blog has been somewhat therapeutic for me because my coming of age coincided with Herbert Armstrong’s 1972 Great Tribulation.  I couldn’t pay Herbie back for his false prophecies but I could pay Ronald Weinland forward.

However I have decided not to renew the hosting subscription for this blog and so it will come to an end.  I will be looking at archiving the content of this blog on a wordpress.com site but don’t expect to allow commenting there.  I rely on a plug-in to filter out comment spam — if I had no filter, then in less that two months the spam would exceed all the legitimate comments made over the last nine years.

We have about 6 weeks to plan for the wind-down of this blog.  If anyone has any suggestions for a forum to continue the discussion please them in a comment.  Possibly a Google group but there could be other options.  I would also like to see someone else take over the management role of the new forum.

259 thoughts on “A Decade of Not Drinking the FlavorAid

  1. I personally want to thank you for all of the work and research you have done. It is greatly appreciated!

    If it is possible, It would be nice to continue to June of 2019, but, I can understand your reasoning. I have grown tired of this liar weinland and have already decided to move on once 6/9/19 crashes and burns. Weinland is already a failure and has been for years and will not ever meet his own delusional expectations and I can live with that.

    Thank you once again for what you have done here and enjoy your life and family free of any debris of liar weinland.


  2. Mike, I’m sorry to see the board wind down. 😦

    This board in a sense has been a Godsend in a sense as I literally stumbled upon it by accident by simply searching for a pic of Weinland’s house. I sure wish I had the time to take things over, but with working 10 hours a day, and sometimes weekends to FINALLY get out of the financial hole (THANK YOU PKG! :o), I just don’t have the time.

    Just the same, I am REALLY looking forward also to June 9, 2019 coming and going without as much as a whimper. Even if this blog is not continuing somewhere, I can GUARANTEE that someone will be posting somewhere about the debacle, as there’s sure to be some VERY PISSED OFF people who can’t deny they’ve been duped all this time.

    So my hat’s off to you Mike for keeping things going for this long, and perhaps we can all meet up somewhere and keep in touch. I’d hate to lose all the connections I’ve made here over the past three years. 😦


  3. weinland will find out about this and use it to say ..see i told you so ..our enemies have failed..or something similar


    1. Quite possibly. But I think Weinland will be partly disappointed to see this site go. Because his idol Herbie has many critics with websites, and Ron has had one of his own.


  4. You make an interesting point Mike.

    In actuality, you are taking away liar weinland’s only means to justify himself. Meaning, this site draws attention to him and his boasting of his enemies being silenced is sheer ignorance because there are other sites that criticize him. The real truth is that those who post here have simply grown tired of him and all of his ridiculous predictions and to simply put it, Liar weinland has become extremely boring!!!

    As far as the remaining membership goes, it is their choice on how they will react when the great lie of 6/9/19 is proven to be just another vain imagination on liar weinland part is their business. I have better things to do then to waste my time with such foolishness! The truth is that liar weinland’s cult will die with him and that is all there is to that. Liar weinland is a seventy year old man with a damaged heart that could go into arrest at any moment. Let this fool weinland stress out because the money is in decline and it is he who must sweat it out with threats that will eventually become empty words. Not to mention, there is no heir to carry it on. Liar weinland had made it all about himself and that is where the flaw is why his imagined empire has never materialized and will never be resurrected by any of his family. Wayne or Johnny, if given the opportunity, will take it all for themselves and reject the liar’s kids and widow. “If” the money is there it will be a free-for-all and I would place my money on Wayne because he has the speaking ability that the others do not have. Human nature will dominate and play it out as it always does when money is involved. Greed and the lust for power and influence will not be shared by the victor – it is winner takes all!! What a justifiable end to a corrupt deceiving cult that was designed and put in motion by liar weinland it will be.

    My parting words to you liar weinland is that you are a waste of my time and you are despised by me. You cannot change what everyone knows about you. You are a felon, liar, deceiver, and the lowest of human debris. The days I had with you I have cursed and now I will forget you as thought you never existed. Your life will end in shame and you will reap what you deserve ~ scorned and rejected by those you have lied to and injured by your bottomless greed and deception.

    It is now time for you to enter into the realm of non-existence that you so richly deserve.


  5. Mike

    The last paragraph of your first ever blog is a more accurate prophecy than anything of Ron’s.

    I am glad you are stopping. Watching Ron and his immoral stupid and wrong church can become a bit obsessive. I also worry that I do it just to feel superior.

    Best just to ignore him, which I will do from now on.


  6. Ron and LaurA are assholes the old people in church are dying but I bet they stuffed a lot of money away I have control of my moms not getting any just feel bad bad for simple mined people giving I know people in church for years and are broke know


  7. Ron’s latest pithy sermon, from Passover to Pentecost….

    I am waiting to see if they make a pdf of sermon, I wonder what he will say about Pentecost, and if he will mention or hint at next Pentecost.


  8. Mike, I thank you for all the work you have put into this blog for over a decade- I hate to see it go; I hope something can be worked out so that this effort may continue in some new form. Without this blog I wouldn’t have met the likes of our blue-tasseled buddy Zerubbabel and all the other fun stuff… thanks for the laughs!!! Bless You!!!


  9. I too hope something can be worked out so that the site continues…at least for 1 more year.

    I wish I could take over, but am not able to.


  10. All the people in rons church will be dying of old age soon , no young blood but asshole will have money stashed for his family damn shame who payed its fines for him to irs rott in hell false prophet notion you said happen the money whore will keep gossiping


  11. This asshole has my mom’s mind all messed up what a joke these people just waisted there life’s thanking 4 times the world was going to end , just think what they all missed while the asshole and gossip bitch spent and lived a rich life of there dime


  12. Isn’t Ron the prophet, supposed to be prophesying? Isn’t that his final commission?

    Why isn’t he prophesying anything? He wrote a whole book about “it”. Don’t you think it’s high time he actually did something? All he does is give pithy sermons to his converts.


  13. He can’t!! Weinland is not known to God!! Weinland is a liar and falsely proclaims something he is not!!


  14. This coming Pentecost, I wonder if Ron will just give a pithy sermon, or if Ron will remind everybody he has 1 year before he is martyred by the Beast? I am going to assume he will charter a flight to Jerusalem next year for the occasion. Or maybe he will claim God changed His mind, and let Ron escape martyrdom. After which Ron will be able to enjoy some Jerusalem steaks.


  15. I do not know Israel immigration laws.

    Israel may not allow “convicted felons” to enter their country; it may be the same as Australia. If this is the case, then liar weinland and his gossip queen laura will have to die in the streets of Union, Kentucky.

    It is just more lies and more lies!!


  16. Also, Israel deport religious crackpots like liar weinland. If this nut weinland shows up at the temple mount he will be removed forcefully and deported!!

    Not going to work for you liar weinland!! It can only be the streets of Union, Kentucky for you!!!


  17. Ron “God does not want His TW’s to die, because they have proven themselves, so He has prevented me from going to Jerusalem! Isn’t God merciful!”


  18. I am sad to hear about this site not continuing. I have checked in on all of the replies on it for years. I didn’t think it would end until Weinland died, honestly. I always thought of posting but didn’t know what to say really.
    My father was in pkg for a few years, (so was I). He was even an elder for awhile, but he left after the first failed ‘prophecy’.
    Thank you for spending so much time with this site, Mike. There are likely many people like me who have never participated but have looked on for years who are thankful as well.


  19. Brian,

    Thank you for your comment. Hopefully, maybe Mike will consider going one more year, I hope so.

    Hopefully there will be more like you that will make themselves known.


  20. If Ron believed the swill he was serving, what would he be talking about?

    If a person believed he was going to be killed and martyred in a little over a year, he would be talking about that. He’d be saying how tough it’s going to be, to have to lay your life down on the line. You couldn’t stop them from mentioning it.

    Look at Ron, it’s like a ghost town. No mention of it at all.

    It’s because he doesn’t believe it one bit. That’s the behavior of a person who knows it’s not going to happen, because it’s not true, he knows it’s a big lie.


  21. Sit tight Martin……..we still have the Feast to go through this year, and I can just about bet there will be yet another “let down” that won’t be realized greatly until June 9 next year. I keep saying that this will be The Feast of Tabernacles 2011 Pt 2 that PKG’ers will be facing.

    We’ll see how many put up with being snookered this time, and pretty much tell run to shove it once all is said and done.


  22. Mike,

    Thank you for all the work you have put into this blog. You have given us a space to keep posted about this fraud and to exchange ideas and thoughts. I deeply appreciate all you have done. That said, I fully support you in closing it down and moving on. It can be intense to continue to follow Ron and his lies. It’s not healthy for any of us. All of us have varying degrees of hate and/or dislike for Ron and the organization. I think all of us could use a break whether we all agree on that or not…

    It’s been great to share here…I am thankful you held on as long as you have. Make the best choice for You and Yours!

    My best to everyone here.



  23. Feels like some of us almost became family I wish Kirrly would come back one last time and give us an update on her family !!!


  24. Well, I heard on the grape vine Mike was closing down the Blog.

    Mike, when I left PKG, this blog was my soft place to land. With yourself, and so many others here offering their virtual shoulder to cry on.

    I can not thank enough Mike, to have provided so many of us with this safe space.

    Ah Randy, hope you are well. Lovely of you to think of me.

    Life for me is good – Corey in his second year of school, 6 years old, the love of my life. I’ve been working again for the last 4 years, once I felt ready.

    Much love to you all, and I wish you all every happiness for the future.

    As for Ron – *yawn*


  25. The rapture prediction by David Meade will be wrong. There will be no apocalypse, no WWIII, etc. happening on April 23rd.

    Beware of false prophets, fake news, and wolves in sheep’s clothing (they’re everywhere).

    It’s another false prediction, just like that of the fake witnesses, Mr. and Mrs. Ron Weinland.

    These people make predictions and set a date, and when the date comes, they just change the date. With April 23rd approaching all too fast, Meade has changed his projected date for the apocalypse to “some time between September and December” 2018.

    BREAK FREE from the “strong delusion” … these predictions are manipulations and con games played by predators taking advantage of people for their own personal gain. Don’t let them steal your time, and never give them money.



  26. David Meade believes in Planet X…..so far, no evidence exists for it, that I know of.

    I am not sure what role Planet X assumes, does David mean to say that we will collide with Planet X at some point?

    I don’t think so.


  27. I do hope, those that break free from Ronald Weinland don’t end up being atheists.

    Ron has indeed been fulfilling prophecy, he’s not the only one, but he is one of the many “false prophets” deceiving the many, as prophesied by Jesus.

    At some point, it really is just impossible to NOT realize you are a false prophet. Ron knows he’s a false prophet, but he loves the money, so he will continue with the scam. I keep saying, the Ron of the past completely condemns the present Ron.


  28. Let’s take an old testament story and apply it to Ron. I hope Mike will allow a little more scripture quoting than normal but this directly compares Ron to the characteristics of real and false prophets so you can easily see the contrast.

    I have removed some verses and bits (…) for brevity.

    From KJV

    23…let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
    24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God…
    26 … they… called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered…
    27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
    28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.
    29 … and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer…
    30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me…
    32 … he built an altar in the name of the Lord: and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed.
    33 …and said, Fill four barrels with water, and pour it on the burnt sacrifice, and on the wood.
    34 And he said, Do it the second time. And they did it the second time. And he said, Do it the third time. And they did it the third time.
    35 …and he filled the trench also with water.
    36 And it came to pass at the time of the offering … that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant …
    38 Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

    Elijah gave the prophets lots of time to prove their case and they failed. he called on the lord and he asnswered a true prophet instantly.
    He imposed no extra conditions on the false prophets where as he made it as hard as possible for himself, soaking the sacrifice, soaking the wood with water and building a trench filled with water around the sacrifice. This is so there would be no mistake about what had just happened.

    Let’s see

    > Ron exercised his power and cursed his mockers to die slowly from the inside – fail
    > he again exercised his power and cursed his mockers to die speedily from the inside – fail
    > he prophesied that another president would not take office – fail
    > he said he and his wife would die on the streets of Jerusalem – fail
    > He cursed the leaders of the offshoots of the Worldwide Church of God – fail
    > he has prophesied hordes of people clamouring to join CoG-PKG when the Great Tribulation finally materializes – fail
    > he gave the date for the second coming of Christ as the Feast of Trumpets, September 29, 2011 – fail
    > he gave the date for the second coming of Christ as Christ returning on Pentecost, 2012 – fail
    > he gave the date for the second coming of Christ as after the day (which was a year) later – fail
    > he gave the date for the second coming of Christ as 2019 and he is already withdrawing from that date – fail

    Which of these two sides does Ron remind you of the most, Elijah or the Priests of Baal?

    What do you reckon Anthony?

    Mike – it dosnt come as suprise that its time to call it quits although I had you peggd to stop after the 2019 date. Thanks very much for the time and effort you put into this. I figure Ron has become boring. He keeps saying the same things and reinventing the truth as circumstances change. I startd with Dil weeds blog well before 2008 and have stuck with him as a matter of interest in human nature and false prophets. I never thought I would contribute to a blog and have never done so on other topics but its so much fun in Ron’s target rich area.

    Hope I have somewhere to check up on him and especially how he reacts to the 2019 failure, how he deails with the 47th truth and the Prophecy against the nations book. On behalf of Dil weed

    Tick, Tock. Your time runs short


  29. 38 Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

    the fire consumed …..* the stones *

    Must have been mighty hot fire……..


  30. “> he gave the date for the second coming of Christ as after the day (which was a year) later – fail”

    This was 2013, he gave another year right after this one, 2014. The 2013 year was supposed to be the year long Day of the Lord, but nothing happened, so Ron divided the “day” into night and day parts. So that 2013 was the “night” and 2014 was the “day” of the DOTL.

    Then he came up with the 2019 Pentecost date, based on numerological nonsense (which had math errors to boot).


  31. Does anybody have a good alternate place yet?

    I occasionally post at the “Predictions and Prophecies” forum at Above Top Secret site.

    I have a couple of long standing Ronald Weinland threads there. But I don’t think this would be the optimal alternative to here….which is dedicated to outing Ronald Weinland as a false prophet.


  32. On a personal note: I have been reading from this blog very recently, both new and old posts… The information I have discovered here is remarkably well put together and has been the main way I have been able to organize my thoughts and express my beliefs (as an outsider) to someone that I dearly love (a believer). It hasn’t been easy to deal with all the radical inconsistencies that come up when the topic of religion comes up, I just wish I knew more about it sooner. It’s somewhat disheartening to find out that the dialogue found here will no longer be around in 2019 during, you know…
    I am unable to put the energy required to access all the information you provide and have provided here and it’s greatly appreciated, to this day. Right now the truth (this website) seems like the only thing that exists to back up every single uneasy feeling I get when I find out something new about them. I don’t feel comfortable talking about this in detail with others because it’s pointless so the content here is very helpful and has made things better (although sometimes it feels like it’s hopeless).
    I hope that the content can be preserved in some way at least, even if the updates won’t.



  33. I’ve said this a number of times, the case against Ronald Weinland is NOT based on somebody who got “burned” by him, or offended by him, or disfellowshipped by him.

    It is not some subjective opinion based on hurt feelings, from some ex-PKGer, or anti-PKGer.

    It is based on many, many objective facts, the most or almost all, of which come from Ron’s own mouth, or based on Ron’s own paper trail.

    Ron condemns himself, the legal evidence condemns him and put him in jail.

    No, the proofs based on legal evidence, and proofs based on biblical evidence, and the proofs from Ron’s own mouth condemning himself, is all there, and proves that Ronald Weinland is a false prophet.


  34. And this reminds me of the “seven farts” that liar weinland put out there.

    One of the farts was that the world would “know” him and his wife as the two witnesses and that all would be in fear of the both of them! Wellllllll were are they!?

    If any are interested, you should review these farts (thunders) in his first book, what a joke that was!!!

    His failures of 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013, and now 2019 speak for themselves! No wonder this liar is staying out of sight!! Exposure of what he truly is would shut down the bank accounts both legal and illegal. Isn’t that what your served time for in federal prison liar weinland!? Ooops it was five counts of tax evasion and failure to register an offshore account you had in Europe. And now, because of your felon status you can not enter into certain countries!! Really!!!!

    So now you are one desperate liar and no one is listening to you anymore except for the ones who will soon figure you out ~ June 9, 2019!!

    Mike may be leaving this site to someone else, but, understand this we will not go away until you do liar weinland!!


  35. Mike,
    What is entailed with running/maintaining this site?
    I know you have put together all of the weinland information, and put it on the site, and I know you create a new comment page when the existing one fills up.
    There is more than likely a lot more that goes into this then meets the eye. I am just curious. I would consider running it depending on how complicated it is, and if you would allow it given the fact that you don’t know me.
    If it’s the cost of it, I would pay for it, (up to a certain extent).
    Or, maybe it could be run by committee from a few of the ‘old timers’ in here.
    Just my thoughts.


  36. I could donate a little (I am unemployed right now, so money is tight).

    If I were working I would pick up the tab for a year. Wish I could..


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