PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY ORDER Re Criminal Trial of Ronald Weinland

On November 23, the day following False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s arraignment in federal court on 5 counts of criminal tax evasion, Magistrate Judge Candace Smith issued a written order with a prophetic timeline leading up to a jury trial starting on January 31, 2012.  During this time, the prosecution and defense are to prepare for trial by providing all required discovery and filing all pretrial motions.  If Ronald Weinland is to negotiate a plea agreement and abort this prophetic timeline, it must be during the week prior to the Pretrial Conference in mid-January in order for him to be eligible for a sentence reduction of around 6 months.

I have included the text of the judge’s order with commentary and links to explanatory material.

—————- Text of Judge Smith’s order issued following Ronald Weinland’s arraignment, with {embedded commentary} ——————–

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY

NORTHERN DIVISION
at COVINGTON
CRIMINAL ACTION NO. 11-70-DCR-CJS
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA     PLAINTIFF
VS.
RONALD E. WEINLAND                  DEFENDANT

PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY ORDER
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The Defendant having been arraigned on the above action and having pled not guilty, the Court enters this general order governing discovery and pretrial procedures for criminal actions.
1. This matter is assigned for a final pretrial conference on January 17, 2012, beginning at the hour of 3:30 p.m., {a later court order delayed to March 12, 2012} at the United States District Court in Covington, Kentucky.
2. This matter is assigned for trial by Jury on January 31, 2012, beginning at the hour of 10:00 a.m., {a later order delayed to March 20, 2012}at the United States District Court in Covington, Kentucky. Counsel shall be present in Court at 9:30 a.m. Unless otherwise ordered, the Defendant shall continue under the terms and conditions of his present bond for his appearance.
3. (a) To avoid loss of credit for acceptance of responsibility under the United States Sentencing Guidelines, any motion for re-arraignment shall be filed no less than two (2) business days prior to the date of the final pretrial conference. The parties are advised and cautioned that any such motions that do not comply with this paragraph must be accompanied by an affidavit of counsel explaining the failure to comply. Following the filing of a motion for re-arraignment, and if the parties intend to proceed pursuant to a written plea agreement, a copy of the proposed plea agreement shall be submitted for the Court’s review within twenty-four (24) hours of any motion for rearraignment. {A re-arraignment occurs after the defendant negotiates a plea agreement to modified charges.  Under the sentencing guidelines, “acceptance of responsibility” can take 6 months off the sentence.  The court wants any plea agreement negotiated the week before the pretrial conference in mid-January.}
(b) The Court also alerts counsel to United States v. Rocky Miller, No: 6:08-23-DCR (E.D. Ky. July 30, 2008)(Docket Entry No. 50). The referenced Memorandum Opinion and Order sets forth Judge Reeves’s application of 18 U.S.C. §§ 3143(a)(2) and 3145(c) in the context of a defendant, otherwise subject to pre-sentencing detention under §§ 3142(f)(1)(C) and 3143(a)(2), who applied for release under the “exceptional reasons” language of § 3145(c). Counsel should consult said Opinion if such issues may apply, at any point, in this case. Per Miller, although the District Court has jurisdiction under § 3145(c), the Court will undertake the fact-intensive “exceptional reasons” inquiry only in “those instances in which a defendant is incapacitated (physically or mentally) such that he or she is unable to engage in further similar criminal conduct. Additionally, such a defendant must be capable of raising a legitimate issue on appeal. And as the statute plainly states, a defendant must meet a higher standard of proof by clearly showing that exceptional reasons justify release.” See Miller, No: 6:08-23-DCR, DE #50, at 18-19. The District Court will expect counsel to be conversant with this analysis as to any similar prospective release request in this case.{As I understand the referenced case and this language, Judge Reeves is not likely to allow Ron to remain on bail if convicted, but instead would go directly to jail, no passing “Go” and collecting $200}
4. Defensive motions
(a) Generally Defensive motions (except motions for discovery under paragraph 5) shall be filed within thirty (30) days after arraignment {or Dec 22, 2011}, accompanied by a memorandum of authorities. In the case of subsequent arraignment on a superseding indictment, any defensive motions shall be filed within the original (30) day deadline or within fifteen (15) days of re-arraignment, whichever date is later. All motions, responses and replies will be governed by Rule 12.1 the Joint Local Rules of Criminal Practice for the Eastern and Western Districts of Kentucky, and shall be accompanied by a memorandum of authorities. An extra paper copy of such memorandum shall be filed for the convenience of the Court, with an electronic copy to be transmitted via e-mail to the Magistrate Judge’s Chambers at {redacted}@kyed.uscourts.gov. If any motions requiring evidentiary hearings or oral arguments are filed, this matter is assigned for a hearing on pending motions before United States Magistrate Judge Candace J. Smith on January 4, 2012, at 10:00 a.m. at the United States District Court in Covington, Kentucky. Counsel shall confer and have all necessary witnesses present and ready to testify at such hearings.
(b) Motions to Suppress Paragraph 4 of this Order shall apply to motions to suppress evidence, except that the opposing memorandum of the United States with regard to such motions shall be filed no later than three (3) business days prior {Dec 29, 2011} to the date of the suppression hearing {Jan 4, 2012, later delayed to Feb 17, 2012} before the Magistrate Judge. Supplemental memoranda may be filed after completion of the suppression hearing at the discretion of the Magistrate Judge.
5. Pretrial discovery and inspection
(a) The Government Within 10 days after arraignment{or Dec 2, 2011}, the Assistant United States Attorney and the defense counsel shall confer and, upon request, the United States shall fully comply with its obligation to disclose evidence in accordance with Rule 16(a) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. {There is certain evidence which the government must provide the defendant prior to trial.}
(b) The Defendant Within ten (10) days after the arraignment, the Assistant United States Attorney and the defense counsel shall confer and, upon request, the Defendant shall produce all items discoverable pursuant to Rule 16(b) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.{There is certain evidence which the defendant must provide the government prior to trial.}
(c) Declined disclosure If, in the judgment of the United States, it would not be in the interests of justice to make any one or more disclosures as required by this order and/or Rule 16(a) and requested by defense counsel, disclosure may be declined. A declination of any requested disclosure shall be in writing, directed to defense counsel, and signed personally by the Assistant United States Attorney, and shall specify the types of disclosure that are declined. If the Defendant seeks to challenge the declination, he/she shall proceed pursuant to subsection (d) below.
(d) Additional discovery or inspection If additional discovery or inspection is sought, Defendant’s attorney shall confer with the appropriate Assistant United States Attorney with a view to satisfying these requests in a cooperative atmosphere without recourse to the Court. The request may be oral or written and the United States shall respond in like manner. If the parties are unable to resolve their discovery dispute, the party seeking discovery shall file a motion not later than five (5) days prior to the pretrial conference, specifying the details of the dispute and legal authority supporting disclosure.
(1) Jencks Act material This order does not require the United States to disclose Jencks Act material to the Defendant prior to trial other than as required by 18 U.S.C. § 3500.{Any statements by government witnesses or documents to which they refer need only be disclosed to the defense after the witness testifies.}
(2) Brady material The Government shall disclose any Brady material of which it has knowledge in accordance with Rule 16(a). If disclosure is not required by Rule 16(a), said material shall be disclosed to Defendant in time for effective use at trial.{The government is required to disclose information which may tend to prove the defendant’s innocence.}
(3) Rule 404(b) evidence Upon service of a request from the Defendant for notice of Rule 404(b) evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts, the United States shall provide reasonable notice in advance of trial of the general nature of any such evidence it intends to introduce at trial unless the Court excuses pretrial notice upon motion by the United States showing good cause. Seven (7) calendar days prior to trial is presumed to be reasonable notice by this Court.{Rule 404(b) evidence is that which would tend to show the character of the defendant, such as prior convictions.}
(e) If the Government is unsure as to the nature of any evidence and the proper time for disclosure, then it may request an in camera {secret}hearing for the purpose of resolving this issue. A failure to disclose Brady material at a time when it can be effectively used at trial may result in a recess or a continuance so that the Defendant may properly utilize such evidence.
6. Voir Dire The Court will conduct the initial voir dire examination of prospective jurors. However, unless otherwise indicated, and in cases involving a single defendant, each party shall be given fifteen (15) minutes to conduct any follow-up voir dire. The Court may exercise its discretion to shorten individual voir dire in cases involving multiple defendants.
7. Jury Instructions Proposed jury instructions need not be filed in the record but the parties are advised to submit complete instructions to the Court’s Chambers prior to the pretrial conference. These instructions shall be submitted electronically (word perfect format) to {redacted}@kyed.uscourts.gov as well as in paper form. The proposed instructions shall cite supporting authorities. Whenever applicable, the parties shall follow Sixth {PDF File}, Fifth {PDF File} or Eleventh {PDF File} Circuit pattern jury instructions.
8. Statement of the Case The parties shall submit to the Court an Agreed Statement of the Case, or in the event they are unable to agree upon a statement, a separate Statement of the Case, no later than the pretrial conference. This submission should be brief and should identify primary issues raised by the parties (i.e., a basic summary of charges and defenses).
9. Witness and Exhibit Lists The United States (and the Defendant if he/she so chooses) shall submit its in camera witness and exhibit list on or before the pretrial conference. The witness list should identify any evidentiary or other issues which may delay the proceedings and include an estimation of the expected length of direct testimony regarding each person identified.
10. Miscellaneous Pretrial Issues In addition to the matters specified herein, the pretrial conference shall be the deadline for:
(a) filing any motions in limine;{a motion presented to the court outside the presence of the jury}
(b) premarking for identification purposes all exhibits to be used at trial; and,
(c) filing a stipulation as to the authenticity of the exhibits.
This 23rd day of November, 2011.
Signed By:
Candace J. Smith
United States Magistrate Judge

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A Magistrate Judge has lesser powers than a regular Judge.  Magistrate Judge Candace Smith will be handling preliminary matters.  Judge Danny Reeves will preside over the pretrial conference and the trial itself.

Opportunity for comments or questions below.

74 thoughts on “PRETRIAL AND DISCOVERY ORDER Re Criminal Trial of Ronald Weinland

  1. I think you will enjoy (to a certain extent) reading Christopher Hitchens, Sam harris, and/or Richard Dawkins. They are all passionate writers at the very least, and lay out their arguments clearly, even if they are snarky. Their works are the basis for a lot of what people now call the “New Atheism”; a more aggressive, socially active atheism than in years past.

    Personally I am not a fan of this new wave, as it tends to be personality driven as much argument driven. Dawkins is a major figure in evolutionary biology, but his arguments don’t relate to theology as much as science. Both he and Hitchens ignore the THOUSANDS of years of religious/philosophical thought that has been as much a part of Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, etc, as the bad stuff. Major thinkers though the centuries have had great emotional and intellectual struggles with understanding, defining, explaining, or disputing the nature of God, metaphysics, evil, love, and such. So a lot of ‘New Atheists’ just follow Dawkins’ or Hitchens’ lead and attack religion as summed up by its wars and misery without considering the whole of the theological world of ideas.

    But remember, TRUTH is truth no matter if you like it or not. Most things we believe as true are merely things we ENJOY believing to be true. Thus, Ronald Weinland has been CLEARLY proven to be wrong, but his followers keep coming up with ways to continue FEELING that Ron is correct, not actually accepting the truth about his words and actions.

    Thus many so-called Christians who come here hate what I say, and call me an attacker and a blasphemer EVEN when I defend (!!) the Bible against what they enjoy thinking is Biblical truth.

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  2. Thus, many times I will defend the Bible in terms of “factualities”, rather than whether the Bible itself is true or not.

    For example, if Person X came along and said “Jesus was a giraffe”, I KNOW from the BIble that Jesus was never described as or called a giraffe. Plus, a giraffe was never prophesied to be the Jewish Messiah, plus science reveals that giraffes cannot, or ever have been able to, speak Aramaic, so I can safely believe that Jesus was NOT a giraffe as he was presented in the Bible or in reality. That still doesn’t mean the Bible is RIGHT or REAL to me. But it is true to say the Jesus of Nazareth was NOT a giraffe as we know him, or giraffes.

    This is why I find Ronald Weinland’s incredulity at people calling a false prophet so incredibly laughable. How can he be shocked that 99.9999999% of the world doesn’t believe him? Because he contradicts pretty much every Biblical teaching on prophets, End Times, and such in the Bible, ALL OF based on the single idea that God speaks only to him. His ENTIRE theology is based on one simple, little idea that cannot be proven in reality. So the Bible says the ONLY way a prophet can be known to be of God is X, Y, and Z. Ron has FAILED every Biblical test, and MUST be called a false prophet by EVERY Biblical standard, including his OWN when he said he would give up preaching if the things mentioned in his book and sermons DIDN’T happen in 2008.

    He himself at that time called what he is doing NOW insane.

    You have to really WANT to be deceived by Ron if you cam possibly justify his continuing ministry after 2009…

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  3. After 2009? How about after 2007, when the test he defined as a prophet, the deaths of 5 specific CoG ministers, did not come about? Or after Pentecost of 2008, when he showed himself to be insane by continuing to preach? Or by June of 2009, when the US was still an independent nation despite the prophecy on the last page of his prophetic book?

    Or even earlier than that. Early in 2007, he called for the thunders to hit mightily. That clearly didn’t happen.

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  4. Interesting IRS posting of “Examples of Nonfiler Investigations – Fiscal Year 2011”. Some of the example cases have parallels to our lying Ronnie, but others are fraudulent schemes, other criminal activity mixed in with tax evasion, and the like. Regardless, every single example listed resulted in prison time.

    Of course, this is posted by the IRS, so they undoubtedly cherry picked the prison cases to scare people into compliance, but it’s interesting to read the extensive sentences some have received for lessor offenses than Ronnie-the-insane.

    At first, I thought he would only get supervised release (probation) if he is found guilty. I’m now changing my opinion to 1 to 2 years of federal prison time should he be guilty.

    http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=228094,00.html

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  5. Avalo, I have to agree with you on the new wave of Athiesm. They differ than your thoughts as you have studied on both sides of the realm. That is why I don’t mind at all reading what you write because
    you have studied and came up with your own conclusion and stick with it and believe in it. The ones who are Athiest and say “I am atheist because I hate God”. “AH well have you studied why you came to that conclusion sir/ma’sm?” “NOPE! I heard this guy on tv and he makes sense to me”. OK, that is like listening to ron and believe what he says without finding out the truth for yourself, and going by what a man preaches and taking his OPINION.” Just like people I listen to now in this class I am taking, and there is no way to give your own opinion to a couple of them on why they could be wrong, because they are the Holier than though Christians which I personally dispise. sp? sry. One woman said when I made a comment about I don’t believe word for word it is exact becuase one man can take something said and write it down as another can take it completely different and write that down. OK. I may not be making sense. Example, The first 4 books Avalo, don’t they each write accounts of Christ teachings and all 4 give a slightly or more than slightly differnet account of what Jesus preached and yet they heard the same message? I could be wrong but that is what I thought. You would know more on that than I do.
    This last Thrusday in class, the holier than though woman says to me,”The Bible says what is says and Means what it says, it is clearly written”. (hmm think I used those works before but in different content}. So nicely I responed to her “If that is the case then why are you in this class to learn other peoples opinions? If you know everything Virginia why are you here?” u could hear a pin drop.

    Avalo wrote: ” Most things we believe as true are merely things we ENJOY believing to be true.” This is so true. I came to this conclusion last year when my husband said re:mormons and I had a few things to say about them too, with some of these neighbors of mine. ICK.. he said, “Hey, they just believe in it becuase they think it makes them happy and if they are let them be and just ignore them”.
    Hard for me to let the neighbor Christian (chuckle) insults to me go at times, but I bite my tongue and just think, “If that is happy, what is hell?. I am guilty of that in a way too I guess. I find happiness as I am studying different things, but when it comes to religions and churches I have been one very, very, unhappy person.. when I say that some people crinch. Does that make me not a christian Avalo? I don’t know in the close minded world of religion.. I am a Chrstian in my heart, I love God and our savior, becuase it makes me happy. But Religon and churches NO.. so some think I am not a Christian..
    I am not afraid to tell them how I feel, but I guess they think you have to have a religion to be Christian. I guess I am a new world Christian. haha
    Have to add this in, didn’t mean to be long winded, But at class I mentioned about these Athiest I am friends with on the blog and have been learning about what true Atheism really is. They are great minded people and yes they do love and love their families and have wonderful love of their children and spouses.. I told them I was really glad to learn about true Atheism.. The glares I got was horrific. They warned me to be careful, it could be satan trying to get in my sould through Atheism… I couldn’t help but bust out laughing… They changed the subject.. Those people who warned me and said those things to me, do not have any idea. Very judgemental christians. Wouldn’t you say?
    I told them also just what you said about defending the Bible, and everyone on here I am sure knows more about the Bible than I do. They still had that disgust look on their faces.. Needless to say that class is not fun anymore..

    BTW. My husband has the book by Richard Dawkins…. I do want to read Science fact. That is why I am still waiting for that darn book…

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  6. Yes Mike I do remember that.. Last couple years I haven’t read a thing on him until now… Out of site out of mind….

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  7. Ron (a different Ron) the first case listed is very close to Ron’s situation. Although the details are slightly different they were charged with five counts of income tax evasion. Funny how it is a preacher again –“Office of the Patriarch of the Gathering of the House of Israel”. Forty months and thirty six months in prison.

    If a preacher is not lying to and ripping off his congregation, he is ripping of the government. Almost all of them are con artists. Especially those travelling preachers who do not have a physical building called a church.

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  8. I found it interesting that the case Jack mentions involves a couple from Big Sandy, TX. The site formerly of one of Armstrong’s Ambassador College campuses and feast site. The area is still home to a lot of “the scattering”.

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  9. I think it is funny that some Christians and Ronald Weinland are so scared of atheists and those who oppose. There is more Satanic material in Ronald Weinland’s theology than in any disbeliever. To be an atheist is to not believe the evidence presented for Satan or God, not spiritual alternatives to Satan or God! The IRS going after Ron is not to destroy him but to seek the truth of his financial status. Having found evidence suggesting fraud, they presented it to the courts, who then decided that action was necessary. If found guilty they will move to sentence him to what is considered the correct punishment under law. To call that Satanic is to call following GOd’s Law Satanic as well, as you are bending to the will of someone/something outside of yourself. To follow God because he influenced you is NOT free will, and thus not Godly. To be bribed into finding Ronald Weinland guilty is not the Law, it is criminal. Ronald Weinland’s Last Great Day Sermon was Satanic int he sense that he was threatening the congregation with spiritual abandonment if they didn’t do what “God” (he) said. God calls…Satan demands and threatens.

    Ronald Weinland, according to the Bible, is Satanic in his methods.

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  10. Helen, I believe you’re talking about when Ron asked everyone in PKG to pray for an increase in the thunders which purpose was not to ask for more time. They were actually hoping for massive death and destruction so the world would be humbled and come running to Ron and PKG. When nothing happened Ron said PKG’s prayers and fasting were answered and therefore delayed the suffering of millions of people for two years. One year for each day of PKG’s fasting or something to that effect. I’m not positive I have all the facts straight but it went down something like this.

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  11. No Jocko, these are two separate events. Early in 2009, Ron had his 2-day fast during which members were to pray for more destruction and death. And also at the end of 2006 / beginning of 2007 he had a sermon series where he called on the thunders to strike. (BTW, this sermon series is not on his website).

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  12. There is more Satanic material in Ronald Weinland’s theology than in any disbeliever

    Ah, out of the mouths of babes atheists comes wisdom. I have used the Bible to discredit Ron. He has twisted and distorted the meaning of the scriptures so much that it is almost unrecognisable. Ron might as well just write his own bible. Then his true self will be revealed when he labells the Bible an unholy translation and orders his members to burn them.

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  13. Mike, I had thought that in early 2009 while they fasted they were to pray for an increase in thunders which in turn would bring on the death and destruction. So they bypassed the thunders and just requested massive death and destruction? I’m sure during today’s sermon we’ll hear Ron tell everyone how sick, sick, sick the world is! Talk about calling the kettle black.

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  14. If I were religious I would pray for an increase in doubt in the minds of his believers so they could wake up and shake their heads and wonder just how they ended up falling so far down the rabbit hole.

    Take the Blue pill, PKG, take the blue pill!!!

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  15. Mike said “To the best of my understanding, the silent witness was not charged. ”

    Ya know wouldnt it be funny if laura is the one who reported him in the first place lol….so she can run away with her toy boy lol

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  16. Jaco, and Mike . I was regarding to when the end didn’t come in 2008. Even though I left PKG in 2007, I heard Ron prayed to God the end wouldn’t come yet (and followers) to give him more time to minister to more people. So that isn’t what happene? Then what was the excuse..?

    I hear ya Avalo.. I rather be around non-believers then be around Satanic teachings and satanic followers, AND may I please add, Holier than though Christians. They also preach to you if you challenge them in anyway and want to argue. I don’t want to argue, i would just like them to understand that I don’t believe in everything they say either. I did meet once a cool preacher in a S. Baptist church. Him and his wife were sitting with me on a plane. We got talking (i am not shy to talk haha), he ask me what religion I was, I said none I am a Christian. He said “Good Answer”. Doesn’t matter what religion you are or not (HE SAID THIS} Christian is more important than giving a religious name. I guess!!!
    You are so right though Avalo. Christians have such fear of Atheist and actually I think that is stupid.. That is their problem and they need to get over it.. When they talk about Athiest i get pretty pissed off, becuase then they are talking about my boys. And I am real vocal on that..
    I am with you, I do hope Ron’s followers open their eyes one day.. But i wouldn’t hold my breath, sorry to say…. Like I am vocal with you on saying Ron teaches Satanic preaching..

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  17. BTW.. You aren’t satan trying to take my soul over are you.?.lol!! Sry, just had to ask so I can report back to Virginia. DUH!!! You have to admit, that really was a dumb thing for her to say..

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  18. Helen, I believe Ron said there would be nuclear devises going off in US post cities in 2008 but the end wasn’t supposed to come until 2011. When nothing happened in 2008 Ron rescheduled both the “nukes” and the end for 2012.

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  19. Jacko, I remember Ron saying there wouldn’t be a President after Bush, so I was curious what he told his flock why we ended up have a President.. So he made a mistake and just meant nuclear devises would be going off in certain cities.. Very interesting.. I think people must have just misunderstood Ron right, becuase we are not of the same mind? (thank God for that, hey Jacko.:)

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  20. And Helen, yes, fear is one of the many tactics cult leaders use to control their flocks. I admire the wisdom and courage you showed by leaving and never looking back.

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  21. Helen, Ron did in fact say there would be no US president taking office in 2009-Because the USA would no longer be functioning as a nation as a direct result of all those “nukes” going off first in port cities and then later on inland. Ron also prophesied many other world events that were to take place during the same time frame but as usual nothing happened. How he explains this to his flock your guess is as good as mine.

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  22. lol !! I think we could probably give a pretty accurate account of what he told his followers… considering the man..

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  23. Helen, Ron has a habit of putting the blame on his people for things not happening – either they didn’t fast or pray enough, or they misunderstood what he said, or he didn’t really say that, etc. An abuser’s MO is to lay the blame on the victim, always.

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